Volin 470 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 yeah .... I mean.... why not 😉 Metagross31, Minashigo Hiko and Majora like this Link to post Share on other sites
undead4ever 3 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 (edited) question: is the middle road exclusive for offense player or can be use by both? can player on right side attack unit/building on the left if they stand on the middle road? Edited July 19, 2021 by undead4ever Link to post Share on other sites
Minashigo Hiko 156 Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 16 hours ago, undead4ever said: question: is the middle road exclusive for offense player or can be use by both? can player on right side attack unit/building on the left if they stand on the middle road? I think the core confusion is: The side restrictions doesn't restrict the players from entering that site, they are not allowed to harm any units that are not standing on their own site, the reason why some spells are also forbidden and others allowed. So: The middle can be used by both. No they can't. Link to post Share on other sites
Pritstift 145 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) On 7/12/2021 at 9:09 PM, Minashigo Hiko said: Every spell that is able to target an enemy is an offensive spell. As example: Revenge targets your own units, same as life weaving. Infect targets enemy units. I think this definition is not clear enough or life weaving is a special case in my opinion. Life weaving you cast on your own unit but you are able to damage enemy units a lot with it. So for me it has an offensive and defensive function. If i cast it on my own unit as an attacker and i go left side while getting damage and reflect part of this damage to the surrounding enemy units the challenge restriction is not fulfilled for me any longer. So how to handle this case? Edited July 25, 2021 by Pritstift Link to post Share on other sites
wanky 139 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 I must say that I do not believe that this can be seen at all who does what where. This would mean an enormous amount of time for each individual replay. Casting Every Spell just seems not 100% Trackable Link to post Share on other sites
Pritstift 145 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 This are the rules and so in consequence it needs to be checked. What would help is to give extra information of the used decks - so its more clear what could be casted from each player. wanky likes this Link to post Share on other sites
Minashigo Hiko 156 Posted July 26, 2021 Author Share Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/25/2021 at 11:55 AM, Pritstift said: I think this definition is not clear enough or life weaving is a special case in my opinion. Life weaving you cast on your own unit but you are able to damage enemy units a lot with it. So for me it has an offensive and defensive function. If i cast it on my own unit as an attacker and i go left side while getting damage and reflect part of this damage to the surrounding enemy units the challenge restriction is not fulfilled for me any longer. So how to handle this case? Life weaving is indeed a special case, but as the "main feature" is the damage reduction on that one unit you choose there is no restriction. I am well aware that it does reflect a lot of dmg and as we also could see in the last Community Award of LEBOVIN, it even can kill bosses. BUT I am not restricting it, because if you wan't to deal damage with this, you can not "just" do it. In conclusion: Not restricted. On 7/25/2021 at 1:18 PM, wanky said: I must say that I do not believe that this can be seen at all who does what where. This would mean an enormous amount of time for each individual replay. Casting Every Spell just seems not 100% Trackable It is not impossible and I have a lot of time, sure you can just cast it at the same time but at some point I will see it and is it really worth it to get disqualified because of such a small thing? It is trackable, but as you say sometimes I will maybe not see it.. or will I? 😉 Link to post Share on other sites
wanky 139 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 i believe in common sense and sportsmanship, that people will follow the rules. Disadvantageous only that many questions there are true to the rules, therefore my fear that someone sees what as ok what eigendlich against the rules is. But I think that if it's not a match deciding thing you could look past it if it was unclear if this spell/atk match was deciding or not. Link to post Share on other sites
Minashigo Hiko 156 Posted July 26, 2021 Author Share Posted July 26, 2021 Just now, wanky said: i believe in common sense and sportsmanship, that people will follow the rules. Disadvantageous only that many questions there are true to the rules, therefore my fear that someone sees what as ok what eigendlich against the rules is. When judging replays, I will always give the participants the benefit of the doubt, idk like give a second chance or just ignore the mistake. When an enemy is exactly on the border I will not disqualify you because "the wrong side killed the unit" event when exactly on the border there is no wrong side. 2 minutes ago, wanky said: But I think that if it's not a match deciding thing you could look past it if it was unclear if this spell/atk match was deciding or not. I will of course ignore some small things as, you errupted an already dieing unit that legitimately makes 0 difference. The rules are there to give some kind of guidance. The main reason why the border rule exist was, so that there will not be one player who carries the other one. So that every player has its own task, I mean even with the border restriction one can simply carry but it becomes way harder. Link to post Share on other sites
Pritstift 145 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Minashigo Hiko said: Life weaving is indeed a special case, but as the "main feature" is the damage reduction on that one unit you choose there is no restriction. I am well aware that it does reflect a lot of dmg and as we also could see in the last Community Award of LEBOVIN, it even can kill bosses. BUT I am not restricting it, because if you wan't to deal damage with this, you can not "just" do it. In conclusion: Not restricted. Sorry this makes no sence for me. If i am the attacker and i am flying or running left side with a unit that has life weaving on it the enemy units will get dmg. So its a way of attacking units - because i could fly or run around the units and i also can kill them with it. So it should be not allowed. And if you dont want to deal dmg you should not cast this spell on your unit if you are in this area - thats the part of the challenge. Link to post Share on other sites
LEBOVIN 278 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) The whole thing is pretty unambiguous to me. If you are responsible for any damage dealt to enemies this constitutes an attack. Now excluding less popular use cases of cards at random from this rule especially at the end of the challenge does not make sense to me. Edited July 26, 2021 by LEBOVIN Link to post Share on other sites
Ladadoos 1082 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Just wanted to mention that replays can be automatically analyzed to detect whether a spell was played in that replay that should not be allowed, if we really start doubting each other. Whether or not the spell actually dealt damage, is more tricky (read: not feasible for now). Metagross31 likes this Link to post Share on other sites
wanky 139 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 i think this is only important for the fastest runs of this challange, cause there can be everything possible (means, every single small spell can get the match, or maby not) Link to post Share on other sites
Pritstift 145 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 On 7/11/2021 at 3:20 AM, Minashigo Hiko said: your entry has to be a victory/in the ranking @Majora @Minashigo Hiko Please you can explain the meaning of this sentence for us? If i participate in different categories my times cant be all in the rankings at the same time?! Link to post Share on other sites
Minashigo Hiko 156 Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Pritstift said: @Majora @Minashigo Hiko Please you can explain the meaning of this sentence for us? If i participate in different categories my times cant be all in the rankings at the same time?! This was just to ensure, that you do not submit a loss. As on this map there is no clear win condition as in "kill the boss". We added this to have some kind of comparison, because this can be checked. On 7/26/2021 at 3:51 PM, Pritstift said: Sorry this makes no sence for me. If i am the attacker and i am flying or running left side with a unit that has life weaving on it the enemy units will get dmg. So its a way of attacking units - because i could fly or run around the units and i also can kill them with it. So it should be not allowed. And if you dont want to deal dmg you should not cast this spell on your unit if you are in this area - thats the part of the challenge. I do not understand the confusion here, Life weaving targets your own unit and has the purpose to REDUCE the damage this unit gets. Sure some percentage of that dmg will get reflected to everything around it (thorn effect) but this is not the main effect of the card, its a side effect. Its "reduce incoming damage and reflect a percentage of it" not like in aura of pain "deal damage to everything around you". Same as Revenge. Link to post Share on other sites
Pritstift 145 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Minashigo Hiko said: This was just to ensure, that you do not submit a loss. As on this map there is no clear win condition as in "kill the boss". We added this to have some kind of comparison, because this can be checked. But there is a clear win condition - anyway should be clear now 😉 Link to post Share on other sites
Volin 470 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 On 7/11/2021 at 3:20 AM, Minashigo Hiko said: We will announce the winners in a stream on the 31.07.2021 (time to be announced) Hey Hiko, don't want to stress you, but I would like to plan Saturday a bit, as I have to do a hospital visit. Don't want to miss the live stream again. Will it be 19:00 CEST again? Link to post Share on other sites
Minashigo Hiko 156 Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Volin said: Hey Hiko, don't want to stress you, but I would like to plan Saturday a bit, as I have to do a hospital visit. Don't want to miss the live stream again. Will it be 19:00 CEST again? Hey Volin, We originally planned to stream 19:00 CEST but out of personal reasons I sadly have to move the stream to Monday... I am currently not feeling that well and do not want to force a stream for you guys, because you deserve a fun stream like last time. I hope you guys can understand and sorry for moving the date, I will see you all on Monday 19:00 CEST. Because of this you will need to wait two more days to have the winners announced 😉 T1421 likes this Link to post Share on other sites
Volin 470 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Get well mate! All good, the main reason to ask was just to plan a bit ahead, as I missed the last stream already. Thank you for letting us know the new date and time. Link to post Share on other sites
Majora 1155 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Join us tonight at 19:00 CEST for the stream announcing the winners of the second official PvE Contest. There will also be some giveaways, so even if you did not participate; we invite you all to join us for a night of Skylords Reborn fun! twitch.tv/skylordsreborn Volin, Metagross31, T1421 and 1 other like this Link to post Share on other sites
Minashigo Hiko 156 Posted August 6, 2021 Author Share Posted August 6, 2021 I am sorry for the delay and Thank you all for Joining mondays stream. We had a lot of fun hosting and here are the Winner results: Thank you all for participating and enduring my experiments. Keep in mind, that I am doing this in my free time and therefore trying my best to give you all the time I have. To many more Events! 08. Donaar_Gam3over_-_Pure_Shadow_15.02.pmv09. SM_contest_pure_nature_t4_19.00_Volin_arabika.pmv15. Pritstift_Sklavenmeister_22.51_adv_T4_Pure_Fire_Solo.pmv18. Slavemaster_Treim__Wanky_PUR_Frost_22.49.3.pmv17. Treim_Pritstift_Sklavenmeister_adv_Duo_12.12_Mixed.pmv16. Pritstift_Sklavenmeister_25.50_adv_T3_Pure_Nature_Solo.pmv14. Slavemaster_Duo_Advanced_Wanky_LEBOVIN_14.54.4_T2_Only_Challenge_Pure_Shadow_and_Mixed_Deck.pmv13. Dutchy_SM_Event.pmv12. SM_Volin_Blashyrk_1901_PurSchatten_Defenseis_The_Meat_Shield.pmv11. Meta_Volin_The_Toggy_Dance.pmv10. DUtchy-Marco_Pure_green_duo__quirky_defence.pmv09. SM_contest_pure_nature_t4_18.44_Volin_arabika.pmv07. Donaar_Gam3over_-_Mixed_11.50.pmv06. Donaar_-_BONUS_Mixed_Solo_T3_17.04.pmv05. Christoph_SM_solo_final.pmv04. SerarPureNature2616.pmv03. Ultralord - Pure fire Deck.pmvFrost.pmv02. Contest_2_-_Kapo_-_Pure_Fire_Solo.pmv 02. Contest_2_-_Kapo_-_Pure_Fire_Solo.pmv Frost.pmv 03. Ultralord - Pure fire Deck.pmv Kapo, Antwoord, Donaar and 3 others like this Link to post Share on other sites
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