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  1. erkserkserks liked a post in a topic by Cocofang in Increase Auction Set time   
    I think that would actually improve the consistency of card prices and reduce the frequency of price spikes.
    A price spike commonly occurs when the supply of a given card runs out so the next seller takes this opportunity to put theirs up for some outrageous price. Which then leads to this new price being the reference point for several future listings until, over the course of a few days, people undercutting one another leads to the price being normalized again.
    Price spikes can of course still be artificial when somebody intentionally buys up the supply for one card to relist it but at least against organically occurring price spikes longer AH times could help.
  2. Lans liked a post in a topic by Cocofang in Increase Auction Set time   
    I think that would actually improve the consistency of card prices and reduce the frequency of price spikes.
    A price spike commonly occurs when the supply of a given card runs out so the next seller takes this opportunity to put theirs up for some outrageous price. Which then leads to this new price being the reference point for several future listings until, over the course of a few days, people undercutting one another leads to the price being normalized again.
    Price spikes can of course still be artificial when somebody intentionally buys up the supply for one card to relist it but at least against organically occurring price spikes longer AH times could help.
  3. Volin liked a post in a topic by Cocofang in Increase Auction Set time   
    I think that would actually improve the consistency of card prices and reduce the frequency of price spikes.
    A price spike commonly occurs when the supply of a given card runs out so the next seller takes this opportunity to put theirs up for some outrageous price. Which then leads to this new price being the reference point for several future listings until, over the course of a few days, people undercutting one another leads to the price being normalized again.
    Price spikes can of course still be artificial when somebody intentionally buys up the supply for one card to relist it but at least against organically occurring price spikes longer AH times could help.
  4. Dallarian liked a post in a topic by Cocofang in Increase Auction Set time   
    I think that would actually improve the consistency of card prices and reduce the frequency of price spikes.
    A price spike commonly occurs when the supply of a given card runs out so the next seller takes this opportunity to put theirs up for some outrageous price. Which then leads to this new price being the reference point for several future listings until, over the course of a few days, people undercutting one another leads to the price being normalized again.
    Price spikes can of course still be artificial when somebody intentionally buys up the supply for one card to relist it but at least against organically occurring price spikes longer AH times could help.
  5. Metagross31 liked a post in a topic by Cocofang in Increase Auction Set time   
    I think that would actually improve the consistency of card prices and reduce the frequency of price spikes.
    A price spike commonly occurs when the supply of a given card runs out so the next seller takes this opportunity to put theirs up for some outrageous price. Which then leads to this new price being the reference point for several future listings until, over the course of a few days, people undercutting one another leads to the price being normalized again.
    Price spikes can of course still be artificial when somebody intentionally buys up the supply for one card to relist it but at least against organically occurring price spikes longer AH times could help.
  6. Ultralord liked a post in a topic by Cocofang in M units scaled to L and XL   
    XL units are very popular as they represent the peak of the power fantasy in Skylords. Seeing how the game is set up from the ground up to reuse assets I have been wondering how M units would fare if they were repurposed as XL units. There are many surprisingly good models! Especially with some great texture work there could be all sorts of new XL units. So I went through all M units and scaled them up to see how they hold up.
    This is just a little personal project I did out of curiosity and I figured I might as well share. Enjoy the show and maybe some people get inspired to come up with fun concepts for these entities if they were actual L or XL units for specific factions and with different textures.
    Amazon-Types
    Amazon, Amii Phantom, Gladiatrix, Stormsinger, Nightguard
    Overall decent models and variations. Could serve as ranged XL units, skewering things with spears the size of tree trunks. And would allow the exploration of the existence of giantess warriors. Or half giants in L format.
    Big Gun-Types
    Bandit Sniper, Nox Trooper, Firesworn
    Rough to say the least. They start looking janky in L format already. Low poly count and odd proportions make these a hard sell as XL or even L units. They also highlight a problem with animations when scaling up. The giant-model of Dreadnought or the Warlord-type XL units sell the weight of their weapons and armor very well when walking. These guys swing their weapons around like they weight very little, so they aren't spectacular in that department either.
    Dancer-Types
    Bandit Sorceress, Firedancer, Frost Sorceress, Lost Dancer, Dryad, Winter Witch, Moon, Viridya
    Another tough sell. Especially the dancers and dryads have problems when scaled up. If you look closely at them in-game you can see that the fluid motion of their hands is actually them wobbling their fingers up and down as if they were made of rubber. These sort of visual tricks work when they are small but fall apart when scaled up and it just looks weird. They don't have a lot going on either, the models are relatively plain.
    Dino-Types
    Bandit Stalker, Icefang Raptor, Firestalker, Razorshard, Swiftclaw, Scavenger
    Now here is something! How about giant war dinosaurs? Swiftclaw is pretty ugly but the other guys have lots of details to work with on their models and could look even better with a detailed texture.
    Flyer-Types
    Crystal Fiend, Magma Spore, Mana Wing, Energy Parasite, Deathglider
    Of the bunch I think Energy Parasite actually has the most promise. Very unique and detailed model that could serve as the template for lots of things when re-textured.
    Insect-Types
    Scythe Fiends, Witchclaws, Twilight Crawlers, Drones, Burrower, Nightcrawler, Shadow Insect
    My favorite models. They look and move amazing when scaled up! Pretty much all of them are prime stuff to serve as crazy new XL and L units. Especially Witchclaws look rad. Re-textures could open up even more possibilities.
    Ogre-Types
    Eliminator, Enforcer, Slaver, Executor, Knight of Chaos, Lightblade, Mauler, Twilight Brute, Mountain Rowdy, Shaman, Warlock
    A big but very weak group. Most ogres are just blobs. But Lightblade looks slick, like a living tank. And even Mauler isn't half bad. Textures would definitely have to carry here but there is some potential at least.
    Popsicle-Types
    Earthkeeper, Ice Guardian, Lost Wanderer, Wrecker, Giant Slayer, Rogan Kayle
    These start falling apart in L size. Put something like the Earthkeeper next to Avatar of Frost and it's just unconscionable.
    Rider-Types
    Dreadcharger, Lyrish Knight, Nomad, Silverwind Lancers, Bandit Lancer
    On top of pretty low-poly models and plain riders, this is another category that has issues with communicating the weight of that scale. And they would imply the existence of giant horses.
    Torso-Types
    Frost Mage, Grove Spirit, Shadow Mage, Twilight Hag
    Pretty fun, I think. Although a bit fragile looking so definitely nothing you'd see on the frontline. The models are kind of plain but compensate with the fluid and mesmerizing animations.
    Wormpeople-Types
    Cultist Master, Lost Priest, Timeless One, Timeshifter Spirit
    Those are so cool. Enough details to do some great magic with textures and just a very interesting design to look at in general. Also three very distinct looking models.
    Which ones do you think could work well?
    For which faction?
    What abilities and playstyle could they have?
    And how could their theme change entirely with clever texture work?
    I think there is a lot of potential here, many of these could become some amazing additions to the L and XL roster, leading to even more variety.
  7. Metagross31 liked a post in a topic by Cocofang in CHEAP Pure-Shadow Deck   
    Updated the Cost-Section. Also used the opportunity to update and improve the deck. Much stronger now but also needs more gold.
    Price stayed around the same, some card alternatives got slightly more expensive.
  8. Lans liked a post in a topic by Cocofang in CHEAP and powerful BEGINNER Deck   
    Updated the Cost-Section. Turns out the deck got even cheaper now thanks to reforging.
    Some card alternatives also became cheaper.
  9. Metagross31 liked a post in a topic by Cocofang in CHEAP and powerful BEGINNER Deck   
    Updated the Cost-Section. Turns out the deck got even cheaper now thanks to reforging.
    Some card alternatives also became cheaper.
  10. Cocofang liked a post in a topic by Maze in Skylords Marketplace Journal (SMJ)   
    I am actually currently reworking a lot of things behind the scenes and adding the newer cards to the site and the bot. No promises, but expect to see the new iterations up and running again some time next week. 🙂
    Sorry that it took so long for me to finally fix the issues. 🙏
  11. Loriens liked a post in a topic by Cocofang in M units scaled to L and XL   
    XL units are very popular as they represent the peak of the power fantasy in Skylords. Seeing how the game is set up from the ground up to reuse assets I have been wondering how M units would fare if they were repurposed as XL units. There are many surprisingly good models! Especially with some great texture work there could be all sorts of new XL units. So I went through all M units and scaled them up to see how they hold up.
    This is just a little personal project I did out of curiosity and I figured I might as well share. Enjoy the show and maybe some people get inspired to come up with fun concepts for these entities if they were actual L or XL units for specific factions and with different textures.
    Amazon-Types
    Amazon, Amii Phantom, Gladiatrix, Stormsinger, Nightguard
    Overall decent models and variations. Could serve as ranged XL units, skewering things with spears the size of tree trunks. And would allow the exploration of the existence of giantess warriors. Or half giants in L format.
    Big Gun-Types
    Bandit Sniper, Nox Trooper, Firesworn
    Rough to say the least. They start looking janky in L format already. Low poly count and odd proportions make these a hard sell as XL or even L units. They also highlight a problem with animations when scaling up. The giant-model of Dreadnought or the Warlord-type XL units sell the weight of their weapons and armor very well when walking. These guys swing their weapons around like they weight very little, so they aren't spectacular in that department either.
    Dancer-Types
    Bandit Sorceress, Firedancer, Frost Sorceress, Lost Dancer, Dryad, Winter Witch, Moon, Viridya
    Another tough sell. Especially the dancers and dryads have problems when scaled up. If you look closely at them in-game you can see that the fluid motion of their hands is actually them wobbling their fingers up and down as if they were made of rubber. These sort of visual tricks work when they are small but fall apart when scaled up and it just looks weird. They don't have a lot going on either, the models are relatively plain.
    Dino-Types
    Bandit Stalker, Icefang Raptor, Firestalker, Razorshard, Swiftclaw, Scavenger
    Now here is something! How about giant war dinosaurs? Swiftclaw is pretty ugly but the other guys have lots of details to work with on their models and could look even better with a detailed texture.
    Flyer-Types
    Crystal Fiend, Magma Spore, Mana Wing, Energy Parasite, Deathglider
    Of the bunch I think Energy Parasite actually has the most promise. Very unique and detailed model that could serve as the template for lots of things when re-textured.
    Insect-Types
    Scythe Fiends, Witchclaws, Twilight Crawlers, Drones, Burrower, Nightcrawler, Shadow Insect
    My favorite models. They look and move amazing when scaled up! Pretty much all of them are prime stuff to serve as crazy new XL and L units. Especially Witchclaws look rad. Re-textures could open up even more possibilities.
    Ogre-Types
    Eliminator, Enforcer, Slaver, Executor, Knight of Chaos, Lightblade, Mauler, Twilight Brute, Mountain Rowdy, Shaman, Warlock
    A big but very weak group. Most ogres are just blobs. But Lightblade looks slick, like a living tank. And even Mauler isn't half bad. Textures would definitely have to carry here but there is some potential at least.
    Popsicle-Types
    Earthkeeper, Ice Guardian, Lost Wanderer, Wrecker, Giant Slayer, Rogan Kayle
    These start falling apart in L size. Put something like the Earthkeeper next to Avatar of Frost and it's just unconscionable.
    Rider-Types
    Dreadcharger, Lyrish Knight, Nomad, Silverwind Lancers, Bandit Lancer
    On top of pretty low-poly models and plain riders, this is another category that has issues with communicating the weight of that scale. And they would imply the existence of giant horses.
    Torso-Types
    Frost Mage, Grove Spirit, Shadow Mage, Twilight Hag
    Pretty fun, I think. Although a bit fragile looking so definitely nothing you'd see on the frontline. The models are kind of plain but compensate with the fluid and mesmerizing animations.
    Wormpeople-Types
    Cultist Master, Lost Priest, Timeless One, Timeshifter Spirit
    Those are so cool. Enough details to do some great magic with textures and just a very interesting design to look at in general. Also three very distinct looking models.
    Which ones do you think could work well?
    For which faction?
    What abilities and playstyle could they have?
    And how could their theme change entirely with clever texture work?
    I think there is a lot of potential here, many of these could become some amazing additions to the L and XL roster, leading to even more variety.
  12. Xamos liked a post in a topic by Cocofang in M units scaled to L and XL   
    XL units are very popular as they represent the peak of the power fantasy in Skylords. Seeing how the game is set up from the ground up to reuse assets I have been wondering how M units would fare if they were repurposed as XL units. There are many surprisingly good models! Especially with some great texture work there could be all sorts of new XL units. So I went through all M units and scaled them up to see how they hold up.
    This is just a little personal project I did out of curiosity and I figured I might as well share. Enjoy the show and maybe some people get inspired to come up with fun concepts for these entities if they were actual L or XL units for specific factions and with different textures.
    Amazon-Types
    Amazon, Amii Phantom, Gladiatrix, Stormsinger, Nightguard
    Overall decent models and variations. Could serve as ranged XL units, skewering things with spears the size of tree trunks. And would allow the exploration of the existence of giantess warriors. Or half giants in L format.
    Big Gun-Types
    Bandit Sniper, Nox Trooper, Firesworn
    Rough to say the least. They start looking janky in L format already. Low poly count and odd proportions make these a hard sell as XL or even L units. They also highlight a problem with animations when scaling up. The giant-model of Dreadnought or the Warlord-type XL units sell the weight of their weapons and armor very well when walking. These guys swing their weapons around like they weight very little, so they aren't spectacular in that department either.
    Dancer-Types
    Bandit Sorceress, Firedancer, Frost Sorceress, Lost Dancer, Dryad, Winter Witch, Moon, Viridya
    Another tough sell. Especially the dancers and dryads have problems when scaled up. If you look closely at them in-game you can see that the fluid motion of their hands is actually them wobbling their fingers up and down as if they were made of rubber. These sort of visual tricks work when they are small but fall apart when scaled up and it just looks weird. They don't have a lot going on either, the models are relatively plain.
    Dino-Types
    Bandit Stalker, Icefang Raptor, Firestalker, Razorshard, Swiftclaw, Scavenger
    Now here is something! How about giant war dinosaurs? Swiftclaw is pretty ugly but the other guys have lots of details to work with on their models and could look even better with a detailed texture.
    Flyer-Types
    Crystal Fiend, Magma Spore, Mana Wing, Energy Parasite, Deathglider
    Of the bunch I think Energy Parasite actually has the most promise. Very unique and detailed model that could serve as the template for lots of things when re-textured.
    Insect-Types
    Scythe Fiends, Witchclaws, Twilight Crawlers, Drones, Burrower, Nightcrawler, Shadow Insect
    My favorite models. They look and move amazing when scaled up! Pretty much all of them are prime stuff to serve as crazy new XL and L units. Especially Witchclaws look rad. Re-textures could open up even more possibilities.
    Ogre-Types
    Eliminator, Enforcer, Slaver, Executor, Knight of Chaos, Lightblade, Mauler, Twilight Brute, Mountain Rowdy, Shaman, Warlock
    A big but very weak group. Most ogres are just blobs. But Lightblade looks slick, like a living tank. And even Mauler isn't half bad. Textures would definitely have to carry here but there is some potential at least.
    Popsicle-Types
    Earthkeeper, Ice Guardian, Lost Wanderer, Wrecker, Giant Slayer, Rogan Kayle
    These start falling apart in L size. Put something like the Earthkeeper next to Avatar of Frost and it's just unconscionable.
    Rider-Types
    Dreadcharger, Lyrish Knight, Nomad, Silverwind Lancers, Bandit Lancer
    On top of pretty low-poly models and plain riders, this is another category that has issues with communicating the weight of that scale. And they would imply the existence of giant horses.
    Torso-Types
    Frost Mage, Grove Spirit, Shadow Mage, Twilight Hag
    Pretty fun, I think. Although a bit fragile looking so definitely nothing you'd see on the frontline. The models are kind of plain but compensate with the fluid and mesmerizing animations.
    Wormpeople-Types
    Cultist Master, Lost Priest, Timeless One, Timeshifter Spirit
    Those are so cool. Enough details to do some great magic with textures and just a very interesting design to look at in general. Also three very distinct looking models.
    Which ones do you think could work well?
    For which faction?
    What abilities and playstyle could they have?
    And how could their theme change entirely with clever texture work?
    I think there is a lot of potential here, many of these could become some amazing additions to the L and XL roster, leading to even more variety.
  13. Emmaerzeh liked a post in a topic by Cocofang in M units scaled to L and XL   
    XL units are very popular as they represent the peak of the power fantasy in Skylords. Seeing how the game is set up from the ground up to reuse assets I have been wondering how M units would fare if they were repurposed as XL units. There are many surprisingly good models! Especially with some great texture work there could be all sorts of new XL units. So I went through all M units and scaled them up to see how they hold up.
    This is just a little personal project I did out of curiosity and I figured I might as well share. Enjoy the show and maybe some people get inspired to come up with fun concepts for these entities if they were actual L or XL units for specific factions and with different textures.
    Amazon-Types
    Amazon, Amii Phantom, Gladiatrix, Stormsinger, Nightguard
    Overall decent models and variations. Could serve as ranged XL units, skewering things with spears the size of tree trunks. And would allow the exploration of the existence of giantess warriors. Or half giants in L format.
    Big Gun-Types
    Bandit Sniper, Nox Trooper, Firesworn
    Rough to say the least. They start looking janky in L format already. Low poly count and odd proportions make these a hard sell as XL or even L units. They also highlight a problem with animations when scaling up. The giant-model of Dreadnought or the Warlord-type XL units sell the weight of their weapons and armor very well when walking. These guys swing their weapons around like they weight very little, so they aren't spectacular in that department either.
    Dancer-Types
    Bandit Sorceress, Firedancer, Frost Sorceress, Lost Dancer, Dryad, Winter Witch, Moon, Viridya
    Another tough sell. Especially the dancers and dryads have problems when scaled up. If you look closely at them in-game you can see that the fluid motion of their hands is actually them wobbling their fingers up and down as if they were made of rubber. These sort of visual tricks work when they are small but fall apart when scaled up and it just looks weird. They don't have a lot going on either, the models are relatively plain.
    Dino-Types
    Bandit Stalker, Icefang Raptor, Firestalker, Razorshard, Swiftclaw, Scavenger
    Now here is something! How about giant war dinosaurs? Swiftclaw is pretty ugly but the other guys have lots of details to work with on their models and could look even better with a detailed texture.
    Flyer-Types
    Crystal Fiend, Magma Spore, Mana Wing, Energy Parasite, Deathglider
    Of the bunch I think Energy Parasite actually has the most promise. Very unique and detailed model that could serve as the template for lots of things when re-textured.
    Insect-Types
    Scythe Fiends, Witchclaws, Twilight Crawlers, Drones, Burrower, Nightcrawler, Shadow Insect
    My favorite models. They look and move amazing when scaled up! Pretty much all of them are prime stuff to serve as crazy new XL and L units. Especially Witchclaws look rad. Re-textures could open up even more possibilities.
    Ogre-Types
    Eliminator, Enforcer, Slaver, Executor, Knight of Chaos, Lightblade, Mauler, Twilight Brute, Mountain Rowdy, Shaman, Warlock
    A big but very weak group. Most ogres are just blobs. But Lightblade looks slick, like a living tank. And even Mauler isn't half bad. Textures would definitely have to carry here but there is some potential at least.
    Popsicle-Types
    Earthkeeper, Ice Guardian, Lost Wanderer, Wrecker, Giant Slayer, Rogan Kayle
    These start falling apart in L size. Put something like the Earthkeeper next to Avatar of Frost and it's just unconscionable.
    Rider-Types
    Dreadcharger, Lyrish Knight, Nomad, Silverwind Lancers, Bandit Lancer
    On top of pretty low-poly models and plain riders, this is another category that has issues with communicating the weight of that scale. And they would imply the existence of giant horses.
    Torso-Types
    Frost Mage, Grove Spirit, Shadow Mage, Twilight Hag
    Pretty fun, I think. Although a bit fragile looking so definitely nothing you'd see on the frontline. The models are kind of plain but compensate with the fluid and mesmerizing animations.
    Wormpeople-Types
    Cultist Master, Lost Priest, Timeless One, Timeshifter Spirit
    Those are so cool. Enough details to do some great magic with textures and just a very interesting design to look at in general. Also three very distinct looking models.
    Which ones do you think could work well?
    For which faction?
    What abilities and playstyle could they have?
    And how could their theme change entirely with clever texture work?
    I think there is a lot of potential here, many of these could become some amazing additions to the L and XL roster, leading to even more variety.
  14. JarodDempsey liked a post in a topic by Cocofang in M units scaled to L and XL   
    XL units are very popular as they represent the peak of the power fantasy in Skylords. Seeing how the game is set up from the ground up to reuse assets I have been wondering how M units would fare if they were repurposed as XL units. There are many surprisingly good models! Especially with some great texture work there could be all sorts of new XL units. So I went through all M units and scaled them up to see how they hold up.
    This is just a little personal project I did out of curiosity and I figured I might as well share. Enjoy the show and maybe some people get inspired to come up with fun concepts for these entities if they were actual L or XL units for specific factions and with different textures.
    Amazon-Types
    Amazon, Amii Phantom, Gladiatrix, Stormsinger, Nightguard
    Overall decent models and variations. Could serve as ranged XL units, skewering things with spears the size of tree trunks. And would allow the exploration of the existence of giantess warriors. Or half giants in L format.
    Big Gun-Types
    Bandit Sniper, Nox Trooper, Firesworn
    Rough to say the least. They start looking janky in L format already. Low poly count and odd proportions make these a hard sell as XL or even L units. They also highlight a problem with animations when scaling up. The giant-model of Dreadnought or the Warlord-type XL units sell the weight of their weapons and armor very well when walking. These guys swing their weapons around like they weight very little, so they aren't spectacular in that department either.
    Dancer-Types
    Bandit Sorceress, Firedancer, Frost Sorceress, Lost Dancer, Dryad, Winter Witch, Moon, Viridya
    Another tough sell. Especially the dancers and dryads have problems when scaled up. If you look closely at them in-game you can see that the fluid motion of their hands is actually them wobbling their fingers up and down as if they were made of rubber. These sort of visual tricks work when they are small but fall apart when scaled up and it just looks weird. They don't have a lot going on either, the models are relatively plain.
    Dino-Types
    Bandit Stalker, Icefang Raptor, Firestalker, Razorshard, Swiftclaw, Scavenger
    Now here is something! How about giant war dinosaurs? Swiftclaw is pretty ugly but the other guys have lots of details to work with on their models and could look even better with a detailed texture.
    Flyer-Types
    Crystal Fiend, Magma Spore, Mana Wing, Energy Parasite, Deathglider
    Of the bunch I think Energy Parasite actually has the most promise. Very unique and detailed model that could serve as the template for lots of things when re-textured.
    Insect-Types
    Scythe Fiends, Witchclaws, Twilight Crawlers, Drones, Burrower, Nightcrawler, Shadow Insect
    My favorite models. They look and move amazing when scaled up! Pretty much all of them are prime stuff to serve as crazy new XL and L units. Especially Witchclaws look rad. Re-textures could open up even more possibilities.
    Ogre-Types
    Eliminator, Enforcer, Slaver, Executor, Knight of Chaos, Lightblade, Mauler, Twilight Brute, Mountain Rowdy, Shaman, Warlock
    A big but very weak group. Most ogres are just blobs. But Lightblade looks slick, like a living tank. And even Mauler isn't half bad. Textures would definitely have to carry here but there is some potential at least.
    Popsicle-Types
    Earthkeeper, Ice Guardian, Lost Wanderer, Wrecker, Giant Slayer, Rogan Kayle
    These start falling apart in L size. Put something like the Earthkeeper next to Avatar of Frost and it's just unconscionable.
    Rider-Types
    Dreadcharger, Lyrish Knight, Nomad, Silverwind Lancers, Bandit Lancer
    On top of pretty low-poly models and plain riders, this is another category that has issues with communicating the weight of that scale. And they would imply the existence of giant horses.
    Torso-Types
    Frost Mage, Grove Spirit, Shadow Mage, Twilight Hag
    Pretty fun, I think. Although a bit fragile looking so definitely nothing you'd see on the frontline. The models are kind of plain but compensate with the fluid and mesmerizing animations.
    Wormpeople-Types
    Cultist Master, Lost Priest, Timeless One, Timeshifter Spirit
    Those are so cool. Enough details to do some great magic with textures and just a very interesting design to look at in general. Also three very distinct looking models.
    Which ones do you think could work well?
    For which faction?
    What abilities and playstyle could they have?
    And how could their theme change entirely with clever texture work?
    I think there is a lot of potential here, many of these could become some amazing additions to the L and XL roster, leading to even more variety.
  15. SpiritAlpha liked a post in a topic by Cocofang in M units scaled to L and XL   
    XL units are very popular as they represent the peak of the power fantasy in Skylords. Seeing how the game is set up from the ground up to reuse assets I have been wondering how M units would fare if they were repurposed as XL units. There are many surprisingly good models! Especially with some great texture work there could be all sorts of new XL units. So I went through all M units and scaled them up to see how they hold up.
    This is just a little personal project I did out of curiosity and I figured I might as well share. Enjoy the show and maybe some people get inspired to come up with fun concepts for these entities if they were actual L or XL units for specific factions and with different textures.
    Amazon-Types
    Amazon, Amii Phantom, Gladiatrix, Stormsinger, Nightguard
    Overall decent models and variations. Could serve as ranged XL units, skewering things with spears the size of tree trunks. And would allow the exploration of the existence of giantess warriors. Or half giants in L format.
    Big Gun-Types
    Bandit Sniper, Nox Trooper, Firesworn
    Rough to say the least. They start looking janky in L format already. Low poly count and odd proportions make these a hard sell as XL or even L units. They also highlight a problem with animations when scaling up. The giant-model of Dreadnought or the Warlord-type XL units sell the weight of their weapons and armor very well when walking. These guys swing their weapons around like they weight very little, so they aren't spectacular in that department either.
    Dancer-Types
    Bandit Sorceress, Firedancer, Frost Sorceress, Lost Dancer, Dryad, Winter Witch, Moon, Viridya
    Another tough sell. Especially the dancers and dryads have problems when scaled up. If you look closely at them in-game you can see that the fluid motion of their hands is actually them wobbling their fingers up and down as if they were made of rubber. These sort of visual tricks work when they are small but fall apart when scaled up and it just looks weird. They don't have a lot going on either, the models are relatively plain.
    Dino-Types
    Bandit Stalker, Icefang Raptor, Firestalker, Razorshard, Swiftclaw, Scavenger
    Now here is something! How about giant war dinosaurs? Swiftclaw is pretty ugly but the other guys have lots of details to work with on their models and could look even better with a detailed texture.
    Flyer-Types
    Crystal Fiend, Magma Spore, Mana Wing, Energy Parasite, Deathglider
    Of the bunch I think Energy Parasite actually has the most promise. Very unique and detailed model that could serve as the template for lots of things when re-textured.
    Insect-Types
    Scythe Fiends, Witchclaws, Twilight Crawlers, Drones, Burrower, Nightcrawler, Shadow Insect
    My favorite models. They look and move amazing when scaled up! Pretty much all of them are prime stuff to serve as crazy new XL and L units. Especially Witchclaws look rad. Re-textures could open up even more possibilities.
    Ogre-Types
    Eliminator, Enforcer, Slaver, Executor, Knight of Chaos, Lightblade, Mauler, Twilight Brute, Mountain Rowdy, Shaman, Warlock
    A big but very weak group. Most ogres are just blobs. But Lightblade looks slick, like a living tank. And even Mauler isn't half bad. Textures would definitely have to carry here but there is some potential at least.
    Popsicle-Types
    Earthkeeper, Ice Guardian, Lost Wanderer, Wrecker, Giant Slayer, Rogan Kayle
    These start falling apart in L size. Put something like the Earthkeeper next to Avatar of Frost and it's just unconscionable.
    Rider-Types
    Dreadcharger, Lyrish Knight, Nomad, Silverwind Lancers, Bandit Lancer
    On top of pretty low-poly models and plain riders, this is another category that has issues with communicating the weight of that scale. And they would imply the existence of giant horses.
    Torso-Types
    Frost Mage, Grove Spirit, Shadow Mage, Twilight Hag
    Pretty fun, I think. Although a bit fragile looking so definitely nothing you'd see on the frontline. The models are kind of plain but compensate with the fluid and mesmerizing animations.
    Wormpeople-Types
    Cultist Master, Lost Priest, Timeless One, Timeshifter Spirit
    Those are so cool. Enough details to do some great magic with textures and just a very interesting design to look at in general. Also three very distinct looking models.
    Which ones do you think could work well?
    For which faction?
    What abilities and playstyle could they have?
    And how could their theme change entirely with clever texture work?
    I think there is a lot of potential here, many of these could become some amazing additions to the L and XL roster, leading to even more variety.
  16. Hrdina_Imperia liked a post in a topic by Cocofang in M units scaled to L and XL   
    XL units are very popular as they represent the peak of the power fantasy in Skylords. Seeing how the game is set up from the ground up to reuse assets I have been wondering how M units would fare if they were repurposed as XL units. There are many surprisingly good models! Especially with some great texture work there could be all sorts of new XL units. So I went through all M units and scaled them up to see how they hold up.
    This is just a little personal project I did out of curiosity and I figured I might as well share. Enjoy the show and maybe some people get inspired to come up with fun concepts for these entities if they were actual L or XL units for specific factions and with different textures.
    Amazon-Types
    Amazon, Amii Phantom, Gladiatrix, Stormsinger, Nightguard
    Overall decent models and variations. Could serve as ranged XL units, skewering things with spears the size of tree trunks. And would allow the exploration of the existence of giantess warriors. Or half giants in L format.
    Big Gun-Types
    Bandit Sniper, Nox Trooper, Firesworn
    Rough to say the least. They start looking janky in L format already. Low poly count and odd proportions make these a hard sell as XL or even L units. They also highlight a problem with animations when scaling up. The giant-model of Dreadnought or the Warlord-type XL units sell the weight of their weapons and armor very well when walking. These guys swing their weapons around like they weight very little, so they aren't spectacular in that department either.
    Dancer-Types
    Bandit Sorceress, Firedancer, Frost Sorceress, Lost Dancer, Dryad, Winter Witch, Moon, Viridya
    Another tough sell. Especially the dancers and dryads have problems when scaled up. If you look closely at them in-game you can see that the fluid motion of their hands is actually them wobbling their fingers up and down as if they were made of rubber. These sort of visual tricks work when they are small but fall apart when scaled up and it just looks weird. They don't have a lot going on either, the models are relatively plain.
    Dino-Types
    Bandit Stalker, Icefang Raptor, Firestalker, Razorshard, Swiftclaw, Scavenger
    Now here is something! How about giant war dinosaurs? Swiftclaw is pretty ugly but the other guys have lots of details to work with on their models and could look even better with a detailed texture.
    Flyer-Types
    Crystal Fiend, Magma Spore, Mana Wing, Energy Parasite, Deathglider
    Of the bunch I think Energy Parasite actually has the most promise. Very unique and detailed model that could serve as the template for lots of things when re-textured.
    Insect-Types
    Scythe Fiends, Witchclaws, Twilight Crawlers, Drones, Burrower, Nightcrawler, Shadow Insect
    My favorite models. They look and move amazing when scaled up! Pretty much all of them are prime stuff to serve as crazy new XL and L units. Especially Witchclaws look rad. Re-textures could open up even more possibilities.
    Ogre-Types
    Eliminator, Enforcer, Slaver, Executor, Knight of Chaos, Lightblade, Mauler, Twilight Brute, Mountain Rowdy, Shaman, Warlock
    A big but very weak group. Most ogres are just blobs. But Lightblade looks slick, like a living tank. And even Mauler isn't half bad. Textures would definitely have to carry here but there is some potential at least.
    Popsicle-Types
    Earthkeeper, Ice Guardian, Lost Wanderer, Wrecker, Giant Slayer, Rogan Kayle
    These start falling apart in L size. Put something like the Earthkeeper next to Avatar of Frost and it's just unconscionable.
    Rider-Types
    Dreadcharger, Lyrish Knight, Nomad, Silverwind Lancers, Bandit Lancer
    On top of pretty low-poly models and plain riders, this is another category that has issues with communicating the weight of that scale. And they would imply the existence of giant horses.
    Torso-Types
    Frost Mage, Grove Spirit, Shadow Mage, Twilight Hag
    Pretty fun, I think. Although a bit fragile looking so definitely nothing you'd see on the frontline. The models are kind of plain but compensate with the fluid and mesmerizing animations.
    Wormpeople-Types
    Cultist Master, Lost Priest, Timeless One, Timeshifter Spirit
    Those are so cool. Enough details to do some great magic with textures and just a very interesting design to look at in general. Also three very distinct looking models.
    Which ones do you think could work well?
    For which faction?
    What abilities and playstyle could they have?
    And how could their theme change entirely with clever texture work?
    I think there is a lot of potential here, many of these could become some amazing additions to the L and XL roster, leading to even more variety.
  17. SunWu liked a post in a topic by Cocofang in M units scaled to L and XL   
    XL units are very popular as they represent the peak of the power fantasy in Skylords. Seeing how the game is set up from the ground up to reuse assets I have been wondering how M units would fare if they were repurposed as XL units. There are many surprisingly good models! Especially with some great texture work there could be all sorts of new XL units. So I went through all M units and scaled them up to see how they hold up.
    This is just a little personal project I did out of curiosity and I figured I might as well share. Enjoy the show and maybe some people get inspired to come up with fun concepts for these entities if they were actual L or XL units for specific factions and with different textures.
    Amazon-Types
    Amazon, Amii Phantom, Gladiatrix, Stormsinger, Nightguard
    Overall decent models and variations. Could serve as ranged XL units, skewering things with spears the size of tree trunks. And would allow the exploration of the existence of giantess warriors. Or half giants in L format.
    Big Gun-Types
    Bandit Sniper, Nox Trooper, Firesworn
    Rough to say the least. They start looking janky in L format already. Low poly count and odd proportions make these a hard sell as XL or even L units. They also highlight a problem with animations when scaling up. The giant-model of Dreadnought or the Warlord-type XL units sell the weight of their weapons and armor very well when walking. These guys swing their weapons around like they weight very little, so they aren't spectacular in that department either.
    Dancer-Types
    Bandit Sorceress, Firedancer, Frost Sorceress, Lost Dancer, Dryad, Winter Witch, Moon, Viridya
    Another tough sell. Especially the dancers and dryads have problems when scaled up. If you look closely at them in-game you can see that the fluid motion of their hands is actually them wobbling their fingers up and down as if they were made of rubber. These sort of visual tricks work when they are small but fall apart when scaled up and it just looks weird. They don't have a lot going on either, the models are relatively plain.
    Dino-Types
    Bandit Stalker, Icefang Raptor, Firestalker, Razorshard, Swiftclaw, Scavenger
    Now here is something! How about giant war dinosaurs? Swiftclaw is pretty ugly but the other guys have lots of details to work with on their models and could look even better with a detailed texture.
    Flyer-Types
    Crystal Fiend, Magma Spore, Mana Wing, Energy Parasite, Deathglider
    Of the bunch I think Energy Parasite actually has the most promise. Very unique and detailed model that could serve as the template for lots of things when re-textured.
    Insect-Types
    Scythe Fiends, Witchclaws, Twilight Crawlers, Drones, Burrower, Nightcrawler, Shadow Insect
    My favorite models. They look and move amazing when scaled up! Pretty much all of them are prime stuff to serve as crazy new XL and L units. Especially Witchclaws look rad. Re-textures could open up even more possibilities.
    Ogre-Types
    Eliminator, Enforcer, Slaver, Executor, Knight of Chaos, Lightblade, Mauler, Twilight Brute, Mountain Rowdy, Shaman, Warlock
    A big but very weak group. Most ogres are just blobs. But Lightblade looks slick, like a living tank. And even Mauler isn't half bad. Textures would definitely have to carry here but there is some potential at least.
    Popsicle-Types
    Earthkeeper, Ice Guardian, Lost Wanderer, Wrecker, Giant Slayer, Rogan Kayle
    These start falling apart in L size. Put something like the Earthkeeper next to Avatar of Frost and it's just unconscionable.
    Rider-Types
    Dreadcharger, Lyrish Knight, Nomad, Silverwind Lancers, Bandit Lancer
    On top of pretty low-poly models and plain riders, this is another category that has issues with communicating the weight of that scale. And they would imply the existence of giant horses.
    Torso-Types
    Frost Mage, Grove Spirit, Shadow Mage, Twilight Hag
    Pretty fun, I think. Although a bit fragile looking so definitely nothing you'd see on the frontline. The models are kind of plain but compensate with the fluid and mesmerizing animations.
    Wormpeople-Types
    Cultist Master, Lost Priest, Timeless One, Timeshifter Spirit
    Those are so cool. Enough details to do some great magic with textures and just a very interesting design to look at in general. Also three very distinct looking models.
    Which ones do you think could work well?
    For which faction?
    What abilities and playstyle could they have?
    And how could their theme change entirely with clever texture work?
    I think there is a lot of potential here, many of these could become some amazing additions to the L and XL roster, leading to even more variety.
  18. Blashyrkh liked a post in a topic by Cocofang in M units scaled to L and XL   
    XL units are very popular as they represent the peak of the power fantasy in Skylords. Seeing how the game is set up from the ground up to reuse assets I have been wondering how M units would fare if they were repurposed as XL units. There are many surprisingly good models! Especially with some great texture work there could be all sorts of new XL units. So I went through all M units and scaled them up to see how they hold up.
    This is just a little personal project I did out of curiosity and I figured I might as well share. Enjoy the show and maybe some people get inspired to come up with fun concepts for these entities if they were actual L or XL units for specific factions and with different textures.
    Amazon-Types
    Amazon, Amii Phantom, Gladiatrix, Stormsinger, Nightguard
    Overall decent models and variations. Could serve as ranged XL units, skewering things with spears the size of tree trunks. And would allow the exploration of the existence of giantess warriors. Or half giants in L format.
    Big Gun-Types
    Bandit Sniper, Nox Trooper, Firesworn
    Rough to say the least. They start looking janky in L format already. Low poly count and odd proportions make these a hard sell as XL or even L units. They also highlight a problem with animations when scaling up. The giant-model of Dreadnought or the Warlord-type XL units sell the weight of their weapons and armor very well when walking. These guys swing their weapons around like they weight very little, so they aren't spectacular in that department either.
    Dancer-Types
    Bandit Sorceress, Firedancer, Frost Sorceress, Lost Dancer, Dryad, Winter Witch, Moon, Viridya
    Another tough sell. Especially the dancers and dryads have problems when scaled up. If you look closely at them in-game you can see that the fluid motion of their hands is actually them wobbling their fingers up and down as if they were made of rubber. These sort of visual tricks work when they are small but fall apart when scaled up and it just looks weird. They don't have a lot going on either, the models are relatively plain.
    Dino-Types
    Bandit Stalker, Icefang Raptor, Firestalker, Razorshard, Swiftclaw, Scavenger
    Now here is something! How about giant war dinosaurs? Swiftclaw is pretty ugly but the other guys have lots of details to work with on their models and could look even better with a detailed texture.
    Flyer-Types
    Crystal Fiend, Magma Spore, Mana Wing, Energy Parasite, Deathglider
    Of the bunch I think Energy Parasite actually has the most promise. Very unique and detailed model that could serve as the template for lots of things when re-textured.
    Insect-Types
    Scythe Fiends, Witchclaws, Twilight Crawlers, Drones, Burrower, Nightcrawler, Shadow Insect
    My favorite models. They look and move amazing when scaled up! Pretty much all of them are prime stuff to serve as crazy new XL and L units. Especially Witchclaws look rad. Re-textures could open up even more possibilities.
    Ogre-Types
    Eliminator, Enforcer, Slaver, Executor, Knight of Chaos, Lightblade, Mauler, Twilight Brute, Mountain Rowdy, Shaman, Warlock
    A big but very weak group. Most ogres are just blobs. But Lightblade looks slick, like a living tank. And even Mauler isn't half bad. Textures would definitely have to carry here but there is some potential at least.
    Popsicle-Types
    Earthkeeper, Ice Guardian, Lost Wanderer, Wrecker, Giant Slayer, Rogan Kayle
    These start falling apart in L size. Put something like the Earthkeeper next to Avatar of Frost and it's just unconscionable.
    Rider-Types
    Dreadcharger, Lyrish Knight, Nomad, Silverwind Lancers, Bandit Lancer
    On top of pretty low-poly models and plain riders, this is another category that has issues with communicating the weight of that scale. And they would imply the existence of giant horses.
    Torso-Types
    Frost Mage, Grove Spirit, Shadow Mage, Twilight Hag
    Pretty fun, I think. Although a bit fragile looking so definitely nothing you'd see on the frontline. The models are kind of plain but compensate with the fluid and mesmerizing animations.
    Wormpeople-Types
    Cultist Master, Lost Priest, Timeless One, Timeshifter Spirit
    Those are so cool. Enough details to do some great magic with textures and just a very interesting design to look at in general. Also three very distinct looking models.
    Which ones do you think could work well?
    For which faction?
    What abilities and playstyle could they have?
    And how could their theme change entirely with clever texture work?
    I think there is a lot of potential here, many of these could become some amazing additions to the L and XL roster, leading to even more variety.
  19. JarodDempsey liked a post in a topic by Cocofang in Community Update #28 - October   
    It's a beam that continuously deals damage and it can attack anything. There is no CC.
  20. Volin liked a post in a topic by Cocofang in Collection, and how hard it gets.   
    Don't know how you'd arrive at 3 years for 320000 BFP.
    Playing generates 400 BFP a day if you do the 45 minutes. If flipping the daily booster it's 480. If you keep it, it's just non-liquid capital, so whatever. That's 800 days or 2y2m if you keep the booster. Or 1y10m if you sell it. That's not accounting for achievements, which also generate BFP. In total there's like, what, over 60 boosters in achievements. 25000 easily.
    So alright, somewhere around 1 1/2 to 2 years is still a lot of time. If you don't want to hog chat all day to buy cheap URs and Promos or gamble on boosters you can also just go pure AH. Prices always fluctuate, it's all about knowing the norm. Having an eye on  valuable cards (mostly URs and Rs) doesn't take a lot of time once you are can make buy/sell decisions on the fly. With that you can invest like 15-30 minutes a day to update your auctions and scan the AH, which can net you well over 1000 BFP a day extra. Which is like 4 to 8 times as much as you get if you just do the bare minimum of doing your dailies. With that you are now indeed looking at somewhere around half a year to get your 320000. Still a long time but to get literally everything in the game, including vanity pieces, that sounds about right. And that's just as a baseline. Investing more time on the day to scavenge trade chat would increase your daily time investment but significantly reduce the overall time period to generate 320000.
  21. Hiryu liked a post in a topic by Cocofang in CHEAP and powerful BEGINNER Deck   
    Foreword
    Content:
    Cost Tier progression Alternative cards to use Upgrade priorities Replays My other Guides Reading time is maybe 15 to 20 minutes.
    For some people the first thing they ask in the game is "can sb show me a good beginner deck?"
    Unfortunately some of the answers they receive won't consider the cost. Both when it comes to the cards themselves but also for the upgrades, which cost gold.
    This deck here is meant as a baseline to get going. Present some various, different concepts to give pointers and grant access to gold flow. But Skylords is all about experimenting! Don't like something? Change it!
    Want to give something a try? Just slot it in!
    Pulled an interesting card that you want to see in action? Build a deck around it, make it work!
    Struggle with a specific map? Try different cards, there might be more suitable ones for different situations.
    Create something else entirely from the ground up? The card pool is your oyster.
    With that being said my goals here are:
    Use almost exclusively Common cards to keep upgrading costs to a minimum Use cheap cards Introduce cards (in the deck itself or as alternatives) that have at least some interesting synergies and are more involved Be forgiving Be flexible, so many cards can be changed Be rPvE 9 ready right out of the box, so it also packs a punch Cost
    The total to put this deck together is much less than 300 BFP! That means you can literally have this whole deck up and running within 45 minutes after first starting the game. You get 150 from your two dailies. 200 from your daily boost and you are set already. If you want a bit more buy your discounted daily booster for 350, resell it to someone. Netting you a total of at least 420 BFP, which you can use to buy everything you need and more.
    I played a few rounds of rPvE 9 without any upgrades myself. I'd advise you to stick to solo until you got a good feeling for the deck. Play one round of 6 or 7 at first. Then try 8, then 9.
    This deck contains almost exclusively super cheap Commons or ones that are even included as starter cards. You can also ask around in trade, people might be willing to sell in bulk for even less than in the AH.

    Windweavers 20 (starter card) Burrower 30 Razorshard G 20 Swamp Drake 20 (starter card)  Lost Horror G 20 Grimvine 80  Giant Wyrm 20 (starter card)  Primal Defender 10 (starter card)  Fountain of Rebirth 40  Breeding Grounds 15 (starter card)  Healing Gardens 30  Necroblaster G 10 (starter card)  Surge of Light 20 (starter card)  Curse of Oink 25 (starter card)  Stone Shell G 20  Equilibrium G 15  Regrowth 15 (starter card)  Unholy Hero 10 (starter card)  Rifle Cultists 10 (starter card)  Offering G 10 (starter card) So minus starter cards it totals roughly 255 BFP. Even less if you take the time to ask people in trade chat. A bit more if you buy during price spikes in the AH.
    Alternatives to Grimvine (note the comments under "Alternative cards to use"):
    Gemeye P or G - 50 AH (Auction House) prices seem to be pretty consistent, if big outliers appear they usually settle again after a few days. You could get away without using Grimvine or Gemeye, slightly reducing the total cost of the deck, but a T4 with only Lost Horror G and Giant Wyrm lacks a beefy frontline. You could also spam Emberstrike and Boom Brothers, as presented as alternatives below.
    You will notice my use of singular letters next to card names, which are referring to the cards affinity. G = Green, P = Purple, B = Blue, R = Red. Cards with affinities have two different versions and they vary in effect, depending on their affinity. Affinities are represented by a small dot on the card in their respective color. They have nothing to do with what Orbs you need to play that card though.
    Tier progression
    Tier 1 - Nature
    Build two Fountains of Rebirth so you can have their buff permanently running. They even affect allies, which is a massive boon for all other factions that usually have no or little sustain on T1. In the long run, it will also reduce how often you have to use Surge of Light. What is more, it will make you accustomed to managing timed, global buffs. A mechanic that many decks utilize (Shrine of War being the most prominent example). To make things easier, assign the two fountains to one group each as a shortcut, just as you do with your units.
    Spam WWs (Windweavers). Because of their ability they can hit two targets at once. Which means, as long as there is more than one target, their effective DP20 (Damage Per 20 Seconds, which is the average damage value that is printed on cards) is actually 960. As soon as a squad of WWs goes down to about 50% HP, pull them behind other squads. Enemies will switch to attacking one of the closer squads, at which point you can reengage with the wounded WWs. This distribution of damage will make the Fountains more effective and also make it more likely you don't overheal with Surge.
    If you want a tower at T1, the Primal Defender is your building. Two of them can be a big help to defend your initial base on solo rPvE 9 so you can go on the offensive with your WWs.
    Tier 2 - Nature -> Frost
    Razorshard G is the backbone of this T2. The main reason for this is its healing aura, which does not require card upgrades to be powerful. Spawn two of them so they can heal one another. It might feel a bit clunky to play at first but its worth it. You will get accustomed to active abilities, positioning and effective use of units which have immobility. Also, while WWs have no preferred target (see the star next to their damage value), Razorshard G will deal 1.5x damage against S size enemies (if the target has an S next to their life value). So have your Razorshard focus on those targets to take them off the field earlier. Very important to note though, that this damage bonus only applies to their melee attacks. Their Bombing Raid ability does not benefit.
    Keep using your Fountains and you will have very nice passive healing.
    Burrowers are meant to do one thing only: Charge at the enemy (spawn) buildings and destroy them asap. Support them with Curse of Oink and heals. Curse of Oink is temporarily CC (crowd control, so hindering enemy units in some form). Careful though, if they take damage, the spell ends much sooner.
    Keep using Surge of Light if needed.
    Breeding Grounds is an exceptionally powerful building that reduces the power cost of all own and allied units spawned within its AoE (area of effect). You still need to have the default amount of energy available though, you simply spend less on spawn. This is a building that you can keep using for your T3 and your T4 units. However, do remember that the building itself costs 70 energy. So just to break even on the investment you have to then spawn units for a total of just about 470 energy next to it! This gets more generous once Breeding Grounds are upgraded.
    Tier 3 - Nature -> Frost -> Shadow
    If you still have WWs at this point, kill them.
    Lost Horror G is the main star here. Just like WWs he has no damage bonus against any particular unit size. But he shoots THREE attacks at once. This means that his damage potential is 5610, which is comparable to a T4 unit, Absolutely devastating as long as there are at least three targets to aim at.
    Unfortunately, against big single targets Lost Horror G doesn't pack a good punch. Swamp Drake does though! Not only is it very mobile, being airborne, but it has an XL damage bonus, which are usually the tankiest foes. Their ability is CC like Curse of Oink, disabling enemy units for some time but it ends sooner if they take damage.
    Stone Shell G is a damage reduction that becomes more effective if more allied units are within its AoE. In case of emergency, use Equilibrium G for a heal that becomes more potent, the more allied max HP is within its AoE.
    You only need one Lost Horror G card to start! Use Offering G on one of your Swamp Drakes. This kills it but returns 90% of its energy cost to void and refreshes one charge for all T3 cards in your deck.
    After you have your T3 army going build two Healing Gardens somewhere safe. Their active effect will increase any healing effects on your units by 85%, making them much more efficient. It's not the most powerful regeneration at this point because your units will start having much more HP but you can even continue using your Fountains together with Gardens. It's not much passive healing but it's something. Otherwise you can destroy your Fountains at this point or on T4.
    The Necroblaster G is an exceedingly powerful tower. But it requires HP gathered from any corpses to fire its shot. If you use them, build maybe two of them together and either protect them until they have a bit of HP stored or kill your own units near them if necessary. Affinity doesn't matter that much, but feel free to experiment with it.
    Tier 4 - Nature -> Frost -> Shadow -> any
    If you still have any T2 units at this point, kill them. Lost Horror G can stay because its AoE damage is phenomenal. Swamp Drakes will probably naturally start dying in battle.
    Since not a single card in the deck requires two identical Orbs, it doesn't really matter what you build as your last one. I'd go with Nature, because should you somehow lose your one Nature Orb, it's going to be far more devastating than losing the Shadow or Frost one. But you can also change cards in the deck so that your last orb has to be something specific.
    Giant Wyrm is a go-to powerhouse. It's just a very mobile, huge ball of stats.
    Grimvine is a tanky frontliner that destroys buildings and soaks damage. The ability is just alright but luckily also very cheap. It also serves as ground presence, which is important to spawn more units or use spells that are not Arcane (which can be used anywhere).
    When you hit your unit cap of 120 you can start replacing any remaining Lost Horrors G with T4 units. This becomes even better once your Giant Wyrms are upgraded a bit.
    You can continue using Equilibrium G here while on the move. But in more stationary battles Regrowth is superior. Make sure that you currently have the effect from Healing Gardens running when you cast a healing spell. The increase in effectiveness is huge. Unholy Hero makes the buffed unit really deadly. But beware of the drawback. To be safe, use it on a unit, like a Giant Wyrm, that is out of reach for enemies.
    Once again, charge upgrades for Grimvine, Giant Wyrm and even Regrowth aren't necessary because you also have Rifle Cultists. If you Offer them, you get one charge for each T4 card back. However this also means that once your big T4 cards are upgraded with sufficient charges, you can take out both Offering G and Rifle Cultists, which frees up two valuable slots in your deck.
    But don't think they are just there to recharge your XL T4 units. Their ability is very powerful. Especially once you upgrade them to charge it quicker and use Unholy Hero on them. Use it carefully, since it also damages your own units, and it can severely cripple enemy forces before the fight even begins.
    Alternative Cards to use
    With each Tier explained, let's look at some alternatives, upgrades or additions. I am not trying to mess with the Orb sequence though as that can require extensive remodelling of the deck.
    Rough price chart:
    Very cheap - <20
    Cheap - <80
    Moderate - <150
    Expensive - <250
    Very expensive - <500
    Tier 1 Options
    Dryad B - Her aura makes your units (even past T1) sturdier and therefore also makes every heal on them more effective. Expensive.
    Shaman - You can replace Fountain of Rebirth with it. Don't get slowed down too much though. Each Shaman healing is equivalent to one WW not dealing damage. Expensive.
    Ensnaring Roots/Hurricane - Great with WWs. The former lets you kill melee units before they reach you and the latter knocks around S units for a long time. Cheap to moderate.
    Tunnel - Get around the map quickly. Very cheap.
    Tier 2 Options
    Stormsinger G - Good, mobile ranged unit with strong AA (anti-air). Moderate.
    Defenders - Extremely powerful unit once upgraded. 2025 EHP (effective health points) when they hunker down, which makes any healing effect very potent. Notice their ability has two circling arrows. Usually, when you use abilities and spells or units/buildings get destroyed 90% of the invested power will return to your void pool to slowly trickle back into your usable power. However, a switch-ability puts 100% of its power cost into the void pool! So use it liberally. Very cheap.
    Stone Tempest - Lots of damage and knockback. Cheap.
    Ghostspears - If you want to add some melee prowess. Very cheap.
    Crystal Fiend B - Has good healing that also makes affected units take less damage. Very good with Defenders. Moderate.
    Aggressors - Support unit that knocks back even L units. Damage is low for their cost so they need something else to actually kill stuff. Especially S squads can sometimes become impervious against Aggressor attacks if they are spread out too much from the knockback. Cheap.
    Ray of Light - If you feel like, even with Razorshard G, Surge of Light and Fountain of Rebirth, you need more heal. Very cheap.
    Coldsnap - Very powerful CC to disable troublesome foes. Consider that frozen enemies only take 50% damage, so you'll kill them much slower. Be mindful with freezes so you don't mess up your allies' plan. Moderate.
    Northern Keep/Cannon Tower - Cannon Tower is a very strong building against ground units. Northern Keep R has an extremely powerful ability that makes friendly S and M units invulnerable in its AoE. Especially with Defenders this is a defensive barrier that can withstand almost anything. Very cheap.
    Juice Tanks - If you are uncertain how long a map will take or if you are sure it might drag on a bit. For a small power investment your wells will run dry much, much slower. This will net you a safety net for drawn out maps so you can spend power liberally. Don't build them in rPvE though since the time limit will end the match before Juice Tanks really benefit you. Cheap.
    Tier 3 Options
    Ashbone Pyro - Destructive unit and potent synergy with heals. Only really gets good after a few upgrades though. Moderate to expensive.
    Deepcoil Worm - Good ranged unit and you can combine it with Tunnel. Very expensive.
    Silverwind Lancers - Disposable, cheap and mobile fighters. Another unit to Offer if you want to spawn a different T3 unit more frequently. Very cheap.
    Revenge - Both an offensive and defensive spell. It even splashes the self-damage from Ashbone Pyro onto enemies! Expensive.
    Thunderstorm - Purely offensive spell to make quick work of big packs of weaker enemies. Not necessary when your Lost Horror is nearby but good to clean up a sudden surprise attack. Cheap.
    Tier 4 Options
    Gemeye P/G - Artillery range and powerful passive abilities, P dealing more damage overall because of the DoT (damage over time) and G paralyzing units, which disables them for a set time, even if you keep attacking them. However, if you use them instead of Grimvine, their long range will make them stay behind your Giant Wyrms, which makes those take the brunt of enemy fire. Not ideal at all, so you should specifically manage them to stay in front and serve as your tanks. The 15% damage reduction from Adamant Skin makes them very resilient. Could even use both affinity variants simultaneously. Cheap.
    LSS (Lost Spirit Ship) - Instead of Giant Wyrm or even in addition. Deals damage on the move, hits a lot of targets simultaneously and become a tide of destruction once you have multiple of them. Cheap to moderate.
    Boom Brothers/Emberstrike - A more active playstyle as you have a lot of powerful abilities to spam. Boom Brothers annihilate ground presence, units and buildings alike, and their XL bonus damage even applies to their ability. Their knockback keeps everything that survives at bay. Emberstrikes ability can also hit airborne targets and they can be summoned on the fly (they don't suffer temporarily reduced max HP and damage if summoned away from Power Wells/Orbs) but their damage bonus is M, which generally isn't very good on T4. Spamming their abilities can become an issue if you don't have a way to quickly regain void energy. Very cheap.
    Bloodhorn - Once upgraded its Stampede ability tears down multiple buildings. Has XL counter. A very powerful card and one of the best T4 alternatives you could go for. Its ability varies: R makes it immune to debuffs and CC, which makes it very reliable. P makes it deal much more damage, which makes it incredibly destructive. Expensive to very expensive.
    Earthshaker - Destroys enemy buildings quickly. Expensive.
    Maelstrom - Huge AoE and good damage while eventually freezing enemy units. Again, frozen units only take 50% damage. Cheap.
    Ice Tornado - High damage. Doesn't need to travel, you can cast it on a single spot for high single-target damage. Moderate.
    Noxious Cloud - Slow burn which deals massively high damage overall but has to ramp up. Cheap.
    Other upgrades
    Quickly recovering your void energy into actually usable energy pool is very powerful as it speeds up your game a lot. To enable this, you can pick from a few good options. They all affect your Orb choices.
    Cultist Master + Furnace of Flesh - Spawn crawlers near the Furnace and kill them. Only becomes good once those cards are upgraded. It's fine if you only get your second shadow orb on T4. Expensive.
    Shrine of Martyrs - Bit tricky to use. You will need to add some ways to freeze enemies. Moderate.
    Shrine of Memory - Makes you regain void energy much faster. No bursts of power regained but it's consistent. Moderate.
    Upgrade priorities
    Some advice on what to invest in once you start gathering Gold for card upgrades and BFP for more charges:
    Vital upgrades AND charges
    WWs - Your T1 start needs to pack a punch
    Surge of Light - See above
    Regrowth - More usage and more energy efficient
    Necroblaster G - Higher damage means more opportunity to recharge HP from corpses. Only vital if you find yourself using these a lot
    Vital upgrades
    Fountain of Rebirth - More expensive to upgrade but you will notice the increase in regen
    Breeding Grounds - Even cheaper units
    Curse of Oink - More CC and cheaper
    Giant Wyrm - Much more damage for this power expensive unit
    Primal Defender - If you use them frequently
    (Gemeye G/P - More bang for your buck on those as well, if you use them)
    Important upgrades
    Equilibrium G - Better heal
    Burrower - More life is useful since it has to run past enemies
    Grimvine - Even tankier
    Swamp Drake - Increased HP makes them more forgiving and more CC
    Unholy Hero - A risky spell, so it has to be worth it if you use it, right?
    Offering G - Cheaper and more frequent use
    Decent upgrades
    Stone Shell - Cheaper and longer duration
    Lost Horror - More life
    Razorshard G - More life
    Healing Gardens - Even more heal effectiveness
    Rifle Cultists - If you find yourself enjoying their ability, upgrade them as soon as you like
    Replays
    Some replays with this deck on rPvE. To watch them you have to download the file and add it to: C:\Users\<user name>\Documents\BattleForge\replays
    None of the cards are upgraded, this is as bare bones as it gets. Difficulty 7 and 8 are very easy and already net a big payout in gold that lets you upgrade a lot of cards. Difficulty 9 can get a bit messy at times but is also consistently doable.
    Beginner Deck - Solo rPvE 7.pmv 2200 gold payout.
    Very easy with this deck.
    Beginner Deck - Solo rPvE 8.pmv 3250 gold payout.
    While defending my T2 I was too greedy and spawned one too many WWs. Which lead to me not having enough energy to heal my army and losing 5 squads. Would've probably lost only 2 had I healed instead. Not the cleanest T4 finish either but good enough.
    Beginner Deck - Solo rPvE 9 (T2 skip).pmv 4200 gold payout.
    Here I skipped T2 because the opportunity to attack T3 presented itself after the entire camp got pulled. I knew the camp was empty now and charged in. Not the most representative replay because of that but it happens. After getting T3 I suicide rushed a base with my remaining WWs just to take out a spawn and ease the pressure. By the way, every time a Swamp Drake just randomly dies, it's because I Offered it to get a charge back for a Lost Horror G. Notice how I destroy the enemy spawn buildings asap, because if another batch of enemies spawns mid fight it just draws things out.
    My other Guides
    HOW TO: PvE Deckbuilding Guide - If you are unsure how to start building your own decks and what to consider.
    CHEAP Pure-Fire Deck - If you are rather interested in a cheap and flexible fire deck.
    CHEAP Pure-Shadow Deck - If you are rather interested in a cheap and flexible shadow deck.
  22. Ultralord liked a post in a topic by Cocofang in LSS Decks   
    Altar of Chaos to feed bombs to LSS G and provide the best heal in the game.
  23. Cocofang liked a post in a topic by WindHunter in Patch #400035 - 14 September 2022   
    Map Balance Changes

    PvE Map Changes
    Bad Harvest, Defending Hope, & The Soultree: Replaced player variant of Defense Tower with NPC variant.
    All player variants of cards on campaign maps are being swapped out for NPC variants to prevent balance changes to player cards affecting the cards used by NPCs in campaign and random PVE maps. Crusade: Players should be able to fulfil the victory condition immediately now when both paths are cleared early.
    Speedrunners can now compete for top times without having to wait a fixed period of time, therefore removing the existing set minimum time on Crusade. Defending Hope: Rogan will now also move if a player's building is in the vicinity.
    This will allow the achievement "A City Strongly Compact" to be completed entirely with building cards.  Mo: Change blocking at the cliff next to the Command Walker to no longer allow units to walk through the cliff.
    Raven's End: 2 Stonekin units; 1 in the center and 1 in the camp in the right side, are no longer assigned to the Bandits.
    The Dwarven Riddle: The 2 inner monuments that were added in Patch 400033 will now be observable in the fog of war like the other inner monuments.
    The Insane God: Replaced a Twilight Horror with a Twilight Devastator on expert difficulty at Position 1's Tier 3 location and added an additional Slaver to the camp on all difficulties. Replaced all 4 player variant Living Towers with a custom NPC variant. Increased script trigger range around temples to prevent the player from entering the center undetected. Player controlled Urzach's Seeker (transformed Priest) now have the Burrower Acid Spit active ability.
    Slight change to The Insane God to continue to allow use of Nightguard on the map. The addition of a new Slaver to the camp ensures that Position 1's T3 remains similar in difficulty to capture as before for non-Nightguard or Parasite Swarm users. Fixed a bug that allowed a player to sneak into the center without triggering the defense conditions, as well as gave the transformed Priest of Urzach an active ability to make it more worthwhile to engage in the Priest mini-game for the player. The NPC version will not use the Acid Spit ability.  Titans: Replaced 3 Fathom Lords in the Northern camps of Position 4 with Custom Deep Ones (1650 damage, 1650 life points). Expert difficulty only.
    Position 4 is one of the hardest positions on a multiplayer expert map and most players get through it by using Nightguards. This change allows the player to continue using Nightguards, but since Deep Ones are weaker than Fathom Lords, it will increase the difficulty of the map when using this strategy. At the same time, it will minorly decrease the difficulty of Position 4 for non-Nightguard strategies. 
    Bugfixes
    Emberstrike, Tempest, and Fire Worm now properly ignore the 50% damage reduction of dazed units, as their passives suggest. Amii Paladins and Amii Phantom no longer have the "human" class. They now properly only have the "Amii" class. The Tunneling ability of Burrower and Drones no longer grants paralyze immunity during the cast time of the ability. The overkill splash damage bug has been fixed on the following cards: Banzai Lord (p)'s Banzai Birds, Comet Catcher, Death Ray, Fire Dragon, Gemeye, Giant Wyrm, Skycatcher, Rifle Cultist's Dark Grenade, and Worldbreaker Gun. This should constitute a minor buff for each of these cards. Fixed several instances of Revenants' displayed damage being misaligned with the regular unit. Mountain Rowdy's Tainted Ice Block no longer affects flying units on U0-U2. Missing Twilight class was added to the Twilight bug summoned by Twilight Curse. Vulcan now specifies it can only target ground units. Fixed a bug, that caused newly uploaded maps to show an error message as their map name. Fixed a bug that allowed units to clip through terrain with buildings.  Fixed a bug that prevented the use of Twilight Transformation when switching to the other side in the Forge. Community maps should no longer claim to be 2-player maps when they are actually 1-player maps. 
  24. Cocofang liked a post in a topic by WindHunter in Patch #400035 - 14 September 2022   
    Patch #400035
    Welcome to our newest patch. This update contains our sixth balance patch for the game, brand-new cards, and many other changes, enjoy!

    Patch Preview
     - Three new cards are now available! Jump in-game to collect Twilight Slayers, Twilight Crawler, and Tranquility.
     - Our initial balance pass on towers, a large number of buffs to well-designed but underperforming cards, our first PvE nerfs, and a substantial amount of changes to Fire, Nature, and Twilight cards.
     - Changed several PvE maps to improve player experience.

    General Changes
    Updated in-game player banner colors for GM accounts to represent the current roles. Added a search bar to the community map and sparring PvP map selection screens, which can be used to search for map names as well as map creators' names. Added a dropdown menu to the community map and sparring PvP selection screens to filter for player count.  Added a "reset all filters" button to the filtering widget in the deck control window. Added a "search in marketplace" option in the right click menu of cards in the inventory. All-time PvE rankings have been reset due to many times no longer being possible.  Made changes to the Shadow/Nature, Nature/Shadow, Fire/Nature, and Nature/Fire decks free PvP decks to keep them up to date with the new cards and balance changes. 
    New Cards
    Twilight Slayers - 75p T3 Twilight  (Fire and Shadow Affinity)
    You will find the upgrades for this card on the maps Crusade (fire affinity) and Defending Hope (shadow affinity). 

    Twilight Slayers are our first ever T3 S-archer unit. Like their NPC cousins, they deal less damage if enemies are nearby. In exchange, they sport a very high attack value for use with Nature's plentiful crowd control. One affinity deals increased damage to elementals, making them an ideal counter for Stonekin, while the other deals increased damage to humans and ogres, making them a good choice against Bandits. For more information, check out Community Update 26.
     
    Twilight Crawler - 80p T2 Twilight  
    You will find the upgrades for this card on the map Encounters with Twilight.
    A new M-sized S-counter for Twilight T2. Since changing Ghostspears to , Twilight has been reliant on Scythe Fiends as an S-counter in PvP. This opens up a Twilight specific S-counter which takes reduced damage from ranged attacks and spells, just like the NPC version. 

     
    Tranquility - 40p T2 Amii Spell 
    You will find the upgrade for this card on the map Nightmare's End.
    Like Transcendence before it, Tranquility has a different effect depending on whether it is cast on an ally (buff) or an enemy (debuff). The card's flexibility should help it fill a much-needed role in Amii's T2, particularly in PvP, as well as remain relevant in T3. For more information, check out Community Update 27.  
     
  25. Volin liked a post in a topic by Cocofang in Timelimits   
    What would removing the timelimit do though, except making it practically impossible to lose?
    People would still opt for decks that can win faster. If you'd go into it with a slow deck you're still left behind.
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