Reset leaderboards

[DieToPlay 79]

Why are the leaderboards not reset if so many changes went live?

[Loriens 70]

It was just forgotten. Already wrote about it in Discord.

[DieToPlay 79]

46 minutes ago, Loriens said:

It was just forgotten. Already wrote about it in Discord.

The right thing is to reset.

Edited May 21 by DieToPlay

[Volin 494]

12 hours ago, DieToPlay said:

Why are the leaderboards not reset if so many changes went live?

I see no all time affected by the current changes, but I'm not as deep into this as you are. What maps do you think are affected by the current patch?

 

[Loriens 70]

3 hours ago, Volin said:

I see no all time affected by the current changes, but I'm not as deep into this as you are. What maps do you think are affected by the current patch?

 

Slave Master for example cannot be beaten since previous patch, so it was  quite obvious that at least on this patch there will be reset.

Edited May 22 by Loriens

[DieToPlay 79]

5 hours ago, Volin said:

I see no all time affected by the current changes, but I'm not as deep into this as you are. What maps do you think are affected by the current patch?

 

It was stated that any changes to the game will be followed with a full leaderboard reset, as it should.

[wanky 140]

i think the change to breeding and to Sow can potentionaly kill speedrun alltimes possibilitis. (f.e. Rpve games, but in this case its hard to say buz its diffrend for each month) 
Tbh i am not deep into the changes, so i cant say if any of the changes actually "kill" the pontentional to beat alltime times

[Kapo 843]

I think that if "any changes" occur the leaderboard will be reset, thats kinda going to far. Not sure that that was really stated, but I could be wrong.

But if, like wanky mentioned, some integral things like the SoW changes on such a fundamental level, a reset is warranted - even if the theoretical top time just drops by a second, it has become unattainable so competing for top times stops to make sense. So I'm not surprised, as Liorans wrote, it has just been forgotten and will come Soon(TM).

Maybe one of the Admins or High-Level Devs may confirm?

[Volin 494]

1 hour ago, Kapo said:

I think that if "any changes" occur the leaderboard will be reset, thats kinda going to far. Not sure that that was really stated, but I could be wrong.

But if, like wanky mentioned, some integral things like the SoW changes on such a fundamental level, a reset is warranted - even if the theoretical top time just drops by a second, it has become unattainable so competing for top times stops to make sense. So I'm not surprised, as Liorans wrote, it has just been forgotten and will come Soon(TM).

Maybe one of the Admins or High-Level Devs may confirm?

I am just writing this as a player, not in any official way. Just saying, because of my official title, but I cannot and will not ever speak for the project.

I can well understand the question for a reset on Slave Master, tho that was not what was brought up by the TO. But this is indeed one that should be reset!

I am, as known, not even a little bit in the cpve-speedrun topic. But I don't see any of the changes in the current patch affecting any alltime, which is why I asked for maps that are affected (and why). Again, I want to emphasize that I'm not saying there are no other affected Alltimes, but I and the people I talk to don't see them.

For the rpve I see no impact for several reasons, the most important being: The current times are as far from a deep grind as they could be. Both times in 4player could be easily beaten if only two things come together: easy map + some competition.
Breeding and SOW changes certainly have a huge impact on casual play, but I can't see any impact on speedruns in rpve so far. Breeding is usually not used and from the first tests you can easily work around the SOW-changes, as a double or triple Fire Orb player is useful anyways.

I'm not saying that the Rpve ladder should not be reset, I just don't see any reason to. I am open to any constructive discussion and would like to be convinced.

 

On 5/22/2023 at 3:01 PM, DieToPlay said:

It was stated that any changes to the game will be followed with a full leaderboard reset

Never heard of it either @Kapo, nor would it make sense to me. Not saying it was not said, just saying I never heard of it.

Edited May 24 by Volin

[Loriens 70]

2 hours ago, Kapo said:

I think that if "any changes" occur the leaderboard will be reset, thats kinda going to far. Not sure that that was really stated, but I could be wrong.

So I'm not surprised, as Liorans wrote, it has just been forgotten and will come Soon(TM).

Maybe one of the Admins or High-Level Devs may confirm?

Seems like it was just idea, which never became principle.

[Metagross31 465]

If we reset the leaderboard every patch (i.e. around every 3 months), why even have "alltime" records?

[DieToPlay 79]

3 hours ago, Metagross31 said:

If we reset the leaderboard every patch (i.e. around every 3 months), why even have "alltime" records?

If the patch contains a nerf that makes it impossible to compete for the all-time, it's the only reasonable thing to do.
Why would you not reset a time which literally can't be beaten due to card changes.
For example, if AoC gets nerfed, you would have to reset the convoy time since it would be literally impossible to try and compete for that specific time.

At the moment, the most problematic map is probably Slave Master, but I would argue that resetting the rPvE would also make quite a bit of sense, since going SoW with double shadow orb is very standard and now after the change it's impossible.
Volin stated that it doesn't affect the current rPvE records, yet I'm not convinced and would prefer if his team could actually beat their own time in both of the difficulties to confirm the statements.