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To the Dev's for discussion's sake, what would be the effect of having a small bfp/gold fee to activate PvP decks every week? Any opinions? 

Well, now. This statement is pretty disingenuous. It's the gun-to-head deflection. Like big publishers use for their """optional""" monetization in their cashgrab games. While naturally utilizing every psychological manipulation they can get away with to sucker people into buying. Anyway, going on a tangent here.
Obviously you aren't forced to do it, as in nobody is holding a gun to your head, but not doing so will put you at such a massive disadvantage that you have almost no choice if you want to be competitive right out of the gate.
This feature intends to level the playing field, by evening the power-floor, which it should succeed in. But the new initial power-floor is WAY higher than it was before. Like @MrBao said, the original power-floor was really low with ragtag trash decks. Chaotic and unpredictable. You had to improvise and be inventive. Use the cards you had to the best of your abilities and win with your OWN cards. Which to these type of players felt very satisfying.
That's no longer an option now, so unfortunately these peoples needs fall by the wayside. It is no longer a feasible strategy because you will consistently face Lv100+ decks right out of the gate. Strategy and skill only do so much when the other units simply have bigger numbers. Also, there will be less variety in the beginning because everyone will work with templates now.
So while I can agree with the argument that it's potentially better for the health and sustainability of the PvP scene, which should be a high priority for a niche project like this. With most choices having pros and cons, these players sadly get sacrificed here. But I don't like this type of argument at all, it doesn't line up with reality.
 
When I think about it, I would say that is another argument FOR making these 120 decks have a fee. Because people will eventually just consistently pick the two decks of which they always want the cards of. Which effectively takes these cards off their "want"-list permanently. Which is a negative impact on their drive to build up their own collection and on their participation in the economy. A reoccurring, weekly fee would nudge them towards going independent.

Hey guys,
The Nightmare Shard was overrun in a joint effort and we could determine the most fierce of all the Skylords!
1st - RadicalX (7:33)
2nd - Pritstift (8:08)
3rd - Mynoduesp (8:09)
 
Notice that RadicalX replay has to be viewed on the Testserver, otherwise it wont work. The next PvE Challenge will come soon...
 
Greetings,
DasToggy
3rdMynoduesp.pmv 1stRadicalXTESTSERVER.pmv 2ndPritstift.pmv RadicalXexplanation(german).txt

sorry for my english. what i expect from the game was to make my own pvp deck, build it up gradually. Running out of cards, having to play with only certain cards. It also allows games to start with unpredictable decks on both sides. please at least set that these 12 decks are only playable in game unranked pvp. Thank you.

Hey,
both is wrong, you get 300 BFP participation price on the live server. Not after reset, not on the test server.
Why are the BFP rewards so low? Well we are getting closer and closer to the reset, you can barely use BFP anymore.
 
Greetings,
DasToggy

THIS IS A COMMUNITY-DRIVEN TOURNAMENT. WE ARE NOT AFFILIATED WITH THE SR-TEAM.
 
Hello fellow Skyladies and Skylords,
Change is coming ... Let us battle it out on the Testserver. It might be the last time we are showing off before we go into full release and the Stress Test Open will come to an end. Who will claim the title of the strongest Skylord?
To get to the testserver, get the data (~10mb) in the official Skylords Discord under channel "#dev-updates-test-server" in Technical and Test Section. Please confirm its working and build your decks before the tournament. Direct link to #dev-updates-test-server
Also here is a link to the balance changes already done: LINK
 
Format?
It will be a 1vs1 double elimination best of 3 tournament, the grand final will be best of 5 (one match, no reset). Winner and losers finals will be played on stream.
 
Prize Pool! (The more people participate, the bigger it will get, of course rewards are for the normal server)
1st place  - 15€
2nd place - 10€
3rd place - 5€
All participants - 300 BFP
Bonus reward: Whoever wins a best of 3 against RadicalX also gets 5000 BFP.
€Prizes will be distributed via PayPal. Big thanks to Nachtwolf for organising the sponsoring for this tournament!
 
When?
On 08.11.20  starting on 2pm CEST(Berlin time), the stream will start about 30 minutes in advance.
 
Organisation?
The tournament brackets will be on Challonge, so register and join the tournament there. Please use your in game account name to make communication and finding your enemy easier.
=>LINK TO CHALLONGE<=
The streaming channel that will be covering the tournament is DasToggy on twitch.tv .
In case of problems contact me or one of my mods via Discord, Battleforge or in the stream.
 
 
Rules!
-No bugabuse, cheating or insulting the other players. Penalties may vary from a warning to default loss.
-Disconnection during a game results in a default loss. If both sides agree it is possible to have a remake.
-Not showing up to your match with after 15 minutes results in a default loss. The plan is to play a round of matches every ~30 mins.
-After your match, go to Challonge and insert the result. That is done by clicking on your match and selecting the winner/stats . The brackets will be updated automatically.
-The Map Pool is: Haladur, Simai, Wazhai, Elyon, Lajesh, Uro and Yrmia (same pool as in ranked duel). The first match of the round will be played on Haladur, then it is losers choice. Second round will start with Simai, third one... you get the drill. The winning player (who won the last match in this bo3) also has to lock in his deck first.
-The brackets for the tournament will be shuffled before the tournament starts.
-Since we play on the TESTSERVER, no cards are banned.
 
 
Reply in this thread if you have questions, I will check it out later.
We came a long way in ~20 tournaments in the Open Stress Test and it is time to step it up. May we celebrate the upcoming release with this tournament!
 
 
Best regards,
DasToggy

You are not alone, I also like the collecting aspect - and initially thought that free PvP decks might be bad idea.
But the matter of fact is that PvP is almost dead now. And if you find match it will be with 120 lvl player - so you get veteran and with better deck - again many people dont find this challenging (or lets say challenging too much). Even in EA times the PvP was quite struggling compared to PvE - and most likely after release we will have smaller population than back then.  PvP makes very bad impression for newcomers. As a newbie you somewhat design reasonably viable deck and then you meet things like Harvester or Sunderer or Firedancer etc. Expensive cards, somewhat not typical (wtf, shadow so OP, XL units at T2!omg!! 2000BFP wtf?) and these players might drive off (basically ragequiting PvP forever). So we need to make extra effort to grab every newcomer.
Also, I can barely level 1 or 2 PvP decks, effectively locking me out of Battleforge variety - of course I could grind more, but I do not have time for that.
 
So I welcome these changes as current state of PvP is dominated by single fact - not enough activity. We can balance the card however we want, make the best game ever, but if we will not get new players then the PvP will die.

I like the idea of having to rent 120PvP decks for BFP! It creates and incentive to still invest into your own collection and a modest fee would make sure at least some opportunity cost is associated with using the premade sets.
Even a small, reasonable cost of like 100 BFP would nudge people some more towards making their own decks long term, partaking in the economy.
PvP players still generate enough BFP to sustain a small fee and save up for their own cards on the side. The premade decks aren't meant as a long-term solution to play PvP anyway. They're supposed to even the playing field when starting out.

I have an idea about this, because this may be a more important point than people realize. I love the idea of the free PvP decks, and I believe it is a strong step in the right direction in getting more people to play PvP. However, I also agree there may be some unintended consequences with this.
Taking the idea of the necessity of a currency sink for the long-term economy in this post, what if there was a small BFP or Gold amount that players need to pay to access the PvP decks every week? You might think, whoa whoa, that doesn't make these decks "free" anymore! But wait.
For example, what would happen if it cost 100 bfp or 250 gold (or both?) to have access to 2 PvP decks for the week? 
Benefits:
There is still an incentive to collect cards because of the feeling that PvP decks are "temporary". Similar to some services where you can pay a subscription per month, or a one-time flat fee that is larger and then you do not need to pay monthly anymore. This would be like the PvP decks (small recurring expense) vs making your own (large expense). Entry fee is small enough that it takes only one or two games to get Incentive to play PvP or PvE for additional bfp/gold to get the free decks every week BFP/Gold sink for the economy as this removes bfp/gold, and counters inflation Disadvantages:
Decks are no longer "free" Additional coding required to implement and time needed to discuss among devs on the appropriate cost Eventually the small fixed cost would have a reduced effect on the economy as there will be vastly more bfp/gold accumulated among players

Hey guys,
this Wednesday evening I will cast the fastest and most creative replay of the challenge on stream around ~7pm!
See you there.
 
Greetings,
DasToggy

I may be alone with my opinion but for me this takes away one very unique aspect of the game and it is collecting the cards and working towards your deck. I have not much interest in PvE so I just have to get one card that is missing for PvP and will have no use for bfp anymore. So no need for trading, playing PvE, buying booster or doing quests. I think this will have a huge impact and I do not like it. I remember that I found an old online card game that has a similar history like Battleforge. Its Might and Magic duel of champions. Some guys revived it and you can play it with all cards available from the start. So I instantly dropped the game because the aspect of collecting was gone. Other example was an action rpg (think it was Diablo 2) A friend of me gifted me super strong gear so I could just slay monsters and did not need to pick up anything. It was super boring. I am hyped for the release was already planning how to manage my collection but as it looks I do not have to do anything. Just my two cents. Cheers 

Greetings, Skylords, Skyladies and other Skyfolk!

The time where PvP players had to grind cards and upgrades in PvE in order to unlock the PvP mode will soon be coming to an end. Today we're rolling out a patch where we'll be introducing free pre-built level 120 PvP decks. All cards in those decks will be fully upgraded and charged. This will reduce the entrance barrier to PvP and ensure fairer conditions. Every week you will be able to choose 2 out of 16 different PvP decks. These decks are not locked! You will be able to freely modify these decks by adding cards from your own collection. However, the cards offered in these free PvP decks will not be usable in any of the PvE modes.
We'd like to offer thanks to RadicalX, Hirooo, and TopS3cret, as they were the ones who designed the decks! They are among the most experienced PvP players, and have carefully arranged these decks so they are accessible to both new and veteran players.
On a side note, we will be live on Twitch this upcoming Sunday on the 1st November 2020 at 14:00 CET! We want to talk about some future plans and answer some of your questions. There will also be a very important announcement in regards to the release and reset you are waiting for. You will be able to find the stream here: https://www.twitch.tv/skylordsreborn
You will be able to choose between these decks:
Tainted Darkness (Pure Shadow)
Gifted Darkness (Shadow Nature)
Blessed Darkness (Shadow Frost)
Infused Darkness (Shadow Fire)
Tainted Flora (Nature Shadow)
Gifted Flora (Pure Nature)
Blessed Flora (Nature Frost)
Infused Flora (Nature Fire)
Tainted Ice (Frost Shadow)
Gifted Ice (Frost Nature)
Blessed Ice (Pure Frost)
Infused Ice (Frost Fire)
Tainted Flame (Fire Shadow)
Gifted Flame (Fire Nature)
Blessed Flame (Fire Frost)
Infused Flame (Pure Fire)


Best Regards,

Zyna.

That's sad. Hopefully more people will play after the reset. 

I am just happy that I made it. I failed a couple of times 

Got a run in! Also super slow, but hey, at least something! Might improve it within the next few days, I'll see

I know it`s only a slim chance, but a man can dream?

Thank you! I was incredibly slow. But at least I made it haha

There is nothing stopping anyone from buying more than one pack a day, but having a cheaper price for your first booster after 45 minutes of playtime allows people who can't play very long to have a decent level of progression, even with only 45 minutes of playtime. Those who play more than 45 minutes will progress faster up until all of their bfp reserves are depleted, but that doesn't stop them from progressing in getting more gold and getting more upgrades for their cards.
I do agree that there should also be more incentives and encouragement to play more, as that'll only benefit the community and multiplayer aspect in the long run.
Quests like beating specific 2 and 4 and 12 player maps could encourage players to play maps they would not on their own (ex. Guns of Lyr), or maybe bring life to maps that aren't played much. Maybe even have some multiplayer speedrunning quests like, for example, beat Nightmare Shard in under 25 minutes which could encourage players to actually talk and strategize a bit before starting the map.

BattleForge fans be like:
 

Written on the 17th of October.
 

We have a trello, where we keep you updated on the state of development for the most important features which we want finished before release. Our patches are also documented on the community wiki. Within the next few weeks there will be an annoucement with the exact release date.

Well at current balancing state one should play on the test server ^^
For all that are not so familiar with the differences: https://skylords-reborn.fandom.com/wiki/Balancing Here you can find an overview of all changes, perhaps one of the cards in your deck has been buffed already (check out all 3 iteration tabs).

I'm very excited for the upcoming launch! Great job Skylords Reborn team and thanks for all you do!
I'd love to volunteer for design (but would be happy to volunteer wherever you might have a need?)

Hello fellow Skylords!
It is time for new warriors to step into the ring and for fresh blood to prove its worth. Who will win the Stress Test Rookies#5?
To get to the testserver, get the data (~10mb) in the official Skylords Discord under channel "#dev-updates-test-server" in Technical and Test Section. Please confirm its working and build your decks before the tournament. Direct link to #dev-updates-test-server
 
Format?
It will be a 1vs1 Double Elimination best of one tournament, the  finals will be best of 3 (grand final: one match, no reset). Winners and losers finals will be all played on stream.
And it will be without the Top players, this is an opportunity for newer or less experienced players. so please refrain from registering if you...
...have gold rank (fury) or better.
...have more than 65% win rate.
...do not think you qualify as a rookie.
I will personally doublecheck some of the entries.
 
 
Prize Pool! (more participants=>bigger prizes)
1st place  - 4000
2nd place - 3000
3rd place - 2000
4th place - 1000 
5th-last place - 300BFP
 
 
When?
On 25.10.20 starting on 2pm (CEST, Berlin time), the stream will start about 30 minutes in advance.
 
Where?
On the TESTSERVER.
 
Organisation?
The tournament brackets will be on Challonge, so register and join the tournament there. Please use your in game account name to make communication and finding your opponent easier.
=>LINK TO CHALLONGE<=
The streaming channel that will be covering the tournament is DasToggy on twitch.tv .
In case of problems contact me or one of my mods via Discord or Battleforge.
 
 
Rules!
-Disconnection during a game results in a default loss. If both sides agree it is possible to have a remake.
-Not showing up to your match with after 15 minutes results in a default loss. The plan is to play a round of matches every ~30 mins.
-After your match go to Challonge and insert the result. That is done by clicking on your match and selecting the winner/stats . The brackets will be updated automatically.
-The Map Pool is: Haladur, Simai, Wazhai, Elyon, Lajesh, Uro and Yrmia (same pool as in ranked duel). The first match of the round will be played on Haladur, then it is losers choice (if you made it to the finals). Second round will start with Simai, third one... you get the drill.
-If your Challonge account name does not match you Battlefield name, please use the "Sign up with an alternative name" feature so we can find/contact you.
 
Reply in this thread if you have questions, I will check it out later.
I would love to see this community grow again and the competitive scene develop aswell. And it is time again to have the rookies put on a show.
 
Best regards,
DasToggy

Hey Skylords! 
I have a little (less than 300 subscribers) YouTube account where I mostly do competitive gameplay commentaries. I don't think I'm really anything special, but I do have fun with it. Right now I'm mostly doing Grey Goo, Universe at War, and C&C Remastered Collection matches, though C&C Remaster is wearing a bit thin and I'm not really getting Grey Goo replays anymore. In thinking about branching out, I thought it might be fun to try to do some Skylords Reborn/Battleforge replays. I liked the game back in the day, and am trying to get back into it now via Skylords Reborn.
I'm not sure where to find replays, so I thought soliciting on this forum would maybe help? 
Here's my channel if you're interested: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX7gt-iHfOMtVI1XqmYYBKA/ 
Thanks in advance, either way.