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wanky liked a post in a topic by LEBOVIN in All-time fastest speedrun rankings
New all time records:
- Blight 13:03.7 LEBOVIN + Pritstift + Treim + Wanky September 2019
- Blight 15:59.2 Pritstift + Treim + Wanky September 2019
- Crusade 13:36.4 Pritstift September 2019
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wanky liked a post in a topic by Pritstift in All-time fastest speedrun rankings
New all-time record for treasure fleet: 15.22.0
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wanky liked a post in a topic by Treim in All-time fastest speedrun rankings
new record: Sunbridge - 9:58.3 Pritstift+ Treim
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wanky liked a post in a topic by Pritstift in All-time fastest speedrun rankings
New all-time-record for nightmare shard duo run: 09.11.5 by Wanky and me.
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wanky liked a post in a topic by Pritstift in All-time fastest speedrun rankings
Update Titans Solo 16.06.1
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wanky liked a post in a topic by Pritstift in All-time fastest speedrun rankings
Update blight trio 22.0.4 - will be improved for sure.
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wanky liked a post in a topic by Pritstift in All-time fastest speedrun rankings
New all-time record for MO : 11.19.0
@Thanks to RadicalX who motivated me to play this map again :-)
New all-time record for behind enemy lines: 11.09.7
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Loriens liked a post in a topic by wanky in Balance changes to game
1. I am not agree. most speedrunsers do not even play casual game with randoms. For me i can say, yes i play with randoms a lot. Most of the time with New players or players who joined on discord (ye i am on the skylords discord if i play without my team most of the time)
by playing with new players i follow the quest, most of the times with my PVE deck that work for every PVE map (classic stonekingdeck with natur t1) I help them as mutch is possible and give them tipps how the game work, what they can change to have a better playtime.
If i go for a speedruntactic, i ask before ingame chat. example in dwarren riddle. there i ask if its ok to stay at wall and deffend the wall only staying t1. if they not aggre with that i also play the map casual, but most of the people lick to finisch a map fast.
In guns of lyr it is diffrent: nobody play the questpath. i also like the map playing casual. and if i try to i cant find guys who want to do the same. and if i do most people fail, but i dont feel anger about them. i think 95% or more of the guys who play GoL just want to goldfarm, that means play the skipping way
2. in my view speedrunners play better, also without "cheaty". u wont find any player who playd a map more then speedrunners. We tried almost everything to improf the time.- This also means we know every singel part of the map. U can ask a speedrunnner what units are in t2 camp on almost every PVE campain game and he just know it. This means speedrunner actually know whats needet to get what is needet (also in playing casual). In my view this make speedrunners to better players.
3. As i tolt in point 1 NO! its easy to say this for u if u join GoL and want to play casual there if the 3 other guys want to play the skipping way. in other maps u wont have this trouble. and if there a speedrunnner in your team. and he want go for a speedrun tractic (most on maps everyone knows the tactic aswell) he is going to ask if this is ok. if u not agree ask for play casual or leave the group and open your own game then.
many speedrunners help players who have troble with PVE games. help them with tactic improuvements or help them to creat a deck for a CPVE. Example from myself: snoopy moo asket ingamechat for help doing Blight on Standart, i whisper him i will help him. He joined discord after i asket him. after this i ask him how i can help him, and we talk about the map for 5-6min. he showed the deck to mee and i tolt him what is usless for the map and what can be better. some of the cards that would help him for finish the map he dont even had, so we made Trade and i give him the cards for free (shur i know i dont need them anyway but at least i could sell them to buy the last missing cards or promos) after that we playd the map and i give him intstructions how to play the way he go. End of the story: we finish the map easely and he was rly happy about this. after that we also mad Ravens end and we also have each other in the friendlist. We still play game togeter where i play casual. And if we go for a speedrun, most of the times he asket for doing this. (maby u saw him on leaderbords this month)
Why i say this? just to show u that speedrunners are not that what u are think they are, just because u had 1 bad story in GoL with a speedrunner. I am pretty shure u playd a lot more games with speedrunners u didnt even notice as a speedrunner cause they where playing casual.
BTW: in RPVE is no "cheaty" way to finish the map by skyping parts. but if u lock at the leaderbords also there are the CPVE Speedrunners on top of leaderbords. maby u get what i try to talk about.
ps: hope everyone can read my bad english
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LEBOVIN liked a post in a topic by wanky in Balance changes to game
1. I am not agree. most speedrunsers do not even play casual game with randoms. For me i can say, yes i play with randoms a lot. Most of the time with New players or players who joined on discord (ye i am on the skylords discord if i play without my team most of the time)
by playing with new players i follow the quest, most of the times with my PVE deck that work for every PVE map (classic stonekingdeck with natur t1) I help them as mutch is possible and give them tipps how the game work, what they can change to have a better playtime.
If i go for a speedruntactic, i ask before ingame chat. example in dwarren riddle. there i ask if its ok to stay at wall and deffend the wall only staying t1. if they not aggre with that i also play the map casual, but most of the people lick to finisch a map fast.
In guns of lyr it is diffrent: nobody play the questpath. i also like the map playing casual. and if i try to i cant find guys who want to do the same. and if i do most people fail, but i dont feel anger about them. i think 95% or more of the guys who play GoL just want to goldfarm, that means play the skipping way
2. in my view speedrunners play better, also without "cheaty". u wont find any player who playd a map more then speedrunners. We tried almost everything to improf the time.- This also means we know every singel part of the map. U can ask a speedrunnner what units are in t2 camp on almost every PVE campain game and he just know it. This means speedrunner actually know whats needet to get what is needet (also in playing casual). In my view this make speedrunners to better players.
3. As i tolt in point 1 NO! its easy to say this for u if u join GoL and want to play casual there if the 3 other guys want to play the skipping way. in other maps u wont have this trouble. and if there a speedrunnner in your team. and he want go for a speedrun tractic (most on maps everyone knows the tactic aswell) he is going to ask if this is ok. if u not agree ask for play casual or leave the group and open your own game then.
many speedrunners help players who have troble with PVE games. help them with tactic improuvements or help them to creat a deck for a CPVE. Example from myself: snoopy moo asket ingamechat for help doing Blight on Standart, i whisper him i will help him. He joined discord after i asket him. after this i ask him how i can help him, and we talk about the map for 5-6min. he showed the deck to mee and i tolt him what is usless for the map and what can be better. some of the cards that would help him for finish the map he dont even had, so we made Trade and i give him the cards for free (shur i know i dont need them anyway but at least i could sell them to buy the last missing cards or promos) after that we playd the map and i give him intstructions how to play the way he go. End of the story: we finish the map easely and he was rly happy about this. after that we also mad Ravens end and we also have each other in the friendlist. We still play game togeter where i play casual. And if we go for a speedrun, most of the times he asket for doing this. (maby u saw him on leaderbords this month)
Why i say this? just to show u that speedrunners are not that what u are think they are, just because u had 1 bad story in GoL with a speedrunner. I am pretty shure u playd a lot more games with speedrunners u didnt even notice as a speedrunner cause they where playing casual.
BTW: in RPVE is no "cheaty" way to finish the map by skyping parts. but if u lock at the leaderbords also there are the CPVE Speedrunners on top of leaderbords. maby u get what i try to talk about.
ps: hope everyone can read my bad english
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wanky liked a post in a topic by Kubik in Balance changes to game
some messages may been on unexpected times for players, because the bug they seen was caused by something that happen much earlier, and I was able to track the bug to earlier point, but not able to track from where it come there, so I put message to that place, trough the time there was multiple messages that ask players for reports, for example:
"Server register you in lobby, please report a bug, about how you get to PostgameStatistics please"
"Not enough gold. Required: XXX, but you have only: YYY"
I can not find more of them in history right now.
So next time you see message asking you to report something, please report it no mater how common, or unimportant it will look to you.
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wanky liked a post in a topic by LEBOVIN in Balance changes to game
monument is the display text ingame.... sphere and token are the developers terms
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wanky liked a post in a topic by Cocofang in Balance changes to game
Amii and Enlighten are examples for rule-bending cards. It's what they are supposed to do. You can of course disagree with the design but they are still working as intended.
Also, straining the games mechanics is what speedrunning is literally all about. Learning patterns, exploiting them, manipulating them. Finding and min-maxing the most optimal solution that trumps all others. That is an integral part of the process that you are arguing against for nothing but the pipe dream of a "balanced" game operating on absolute commandments.
As a side-point; I'd argue that mono-decks are suboptimal because of the fact that pure T4 is so lacking that mixing it up will almost always be straight up better. Are there even any mono-T4s in the game worth having without the support of differently colored cards? Green Forest Elder maybe but that's because Nature itself is such a powerful all-rounder.
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wanky liked a post in a topic by Pritstift in Balance changes to game
Are you really playing a lot of pve? Because i am 100% sure a beginner will not be able to finish a lot of maps ( e.g. blight, guns of lyr, nightmare shard etc.) just because having amii-monument or enlightment in his deck.
Why should expert maps just should be for experts? This makes no sence - also experienced beginners should get in touch with this maps and there should be cards that can help them to play it more like in a fun way without training every day. Also i dont think that this cards can totally compensate skill - i played thousands of pve games and still i often see players that have a so called "overpowered" deck but still failing around.
The difference is that an experienced/good/skilled player can use this cards much more effective and get much more advantages from it. So i am sure i can finish maps faster/more effective without amii-monument in comparsion to a beginner/less experienced player that will use amii-monument. He will be happy that he somehow was able to beat the map and i am already thinking what i have to change for the next run to make it even more effective. And this is for me a good mechanic.
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wanky liked a post in a topic by LEBOVIN in Balance changes to game
Why do u guys keep coming up with this exaggerated example of the instant win card? I don’t ever requested you to introduce that, nor change an existing card into that.
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if you play fastest ofc you should be ranked 1
“no one expecting that card to exist“ read in current game (because every card is known) as „no one thought that strategy would work“ and you got the key to becoming first
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It would be compliant with the rules yes
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wanky liked a post in a topic by LEBOVIN in Balance changes to game
Well your examples address a different situation.
In your examples the rules are always set and the player behaves against these rules.
But in BattleForge currently moving backwards in chess or using the car in the race (=exploits) is allowed.
So you guys want a change of the existing rules.
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Well that doesn’t exist yet, and if you do it remains pvp, the npcs, like Minions in lol, remain secondary, primary the players fight each other with the minions as sidequest to get some kind of bonus
as this would also be listed in the map under pvp it should have pvp rules apply to it
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wanky liked a post in a topic by LEBOVIN in Balance changes to game
Make it a visual indicator, like cards that were marked for tome decks.
second point I don’t get, or how can a map be pvp and pve at the same time ?
Well ofc because then other things automatically become the new best.
But having a worse then previous best as incentive to get other players to play? Since you as experienced player can freely decide without the changes if u want to master a different slower strategy aswell
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Also: Look ah the amount of people who voted (- those with multi accounts) and
where are the hundreds of eagerly waiting players out there ? Vote boys and girls !
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wanky liked a post in a topic by Pritstift in Balance changes to game
Please define what is balance in battleforge for you? With the existing cards and how they work you can create a lot of different tactics - so why i should want to have balance changes in pve? I dont see any balance problems in pve - many players here try to see problems/balance problems but what about to accept the current mechanism and in consequence how the game works. Is this not the reason why you like to play battleforge?
I will give you some examples:
-Amii-Monument - i have no problem to play with or without Amii-Monument - for speedruns for sure i will use it - but is this really a balance problem? For speedruns you can use every existing option to make the run faster...Also for beginners this card can be helpful to finish expert maps. So some players here think that the same content will be better just after changing Amii-Monument? This makes no sence for me to be honest. To playblight or rpve with or without Amii-Monument will not change the balance - expert maps are still easy to play without Amii-Monument. So you should accept the Amii-Monument like it is and you can use it if you want or dont use it if you dont want.
-SOW - this card is perfect to make the game fast and it does fit to many different deck-colour combinations. So is it really balanching to change this card e.g. to 3x fire orbs? The consequence will be that less players will use SOW and just because some players think it is cool to play pure fire we will not have a better balanching. You should try to accept this card like it is and you can use it if you want or dont use if dont want. Also sow is a big help when you play with randoms players that have no clue about any void manipulation...
For me all existing maps are easy to play - so it makes no sence for me to change some important cards just with the idea to bring more balance and indireclty making the maps somehow harder...The maps are still easy to play even with a changed Amii-Monument , SOW....Afer you may have the idea to change other cards like cultist masters , englightment, batariel....
You just destroying the mechanics in this game we love it for...better concentrate on totally useless cards to bring more options for strategies in pve/pvp instead of killing core mechanics of the game...
And to finish - what are normal speedruners? I am also a normal speedruner - just with a lot of experience. After you performed the changes i am sure that the same names still will be on top of the rankings - if you know how the game is working you also know how it will work without e.g. Amii-Monument or SOW.....
"Of course, all time records for some maps should be count from last balance/map change patch" - this is somehow stupid - or not? How you want to know that a tactic of a player was affected by the last change???? So e.g. every month there is a balance change - so you have to play fastetst time again and again even if there was no change for the tactic???? And to be honest - some speedruns are hard to perform to get really the best time - i would not be motivated to repeat this every month again and again...
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Loriens liked a post in a topic by wanky in All-time fastest speedrun rankings
after the record from Halis ducarev loriens and hittimo with 2.49.9 we did it in 2.48.7 thx for updating
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Pritstift liked a post in a topic by wanky in All-time fastest speedrun rankings
Empire 18.44.5 Done by Pritstift and me
Dwarren riddle solo done by pritstift in 13.11.2
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LEBOVIN liked a post in a topic by wanky in All-time fastest speedrun rankings
after the record from Halis ducarev loriens and hittimo with 2.49.9 we did it in 2.48.7 thx for updating
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wanky liked a post in a topic by LEBOVIN in All-time fastest speedrun rankings
U do the „sch“ on purpose
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LEBOVIN liked a post in a topic by wanky in All-time fastest speedrun rankings
GoL my solo best beaten
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wanky liked a post in a topic by Loriens in All-time fastest speedrun rankings
GoL New alltime record done. btw. Thx for not ban our Team
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Loriens liked a post in a topic by wanky in All-time fastest speedrun rankings
GoL New alltime record done. btw. Thx for unbann our Team.