Pritstift
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2 hours ago, Navarr said:
Wow I really like where it's going. Good job! It's a valuable resource with lots of solid decks. But as far as I know some of the times stated there aren't possible with the deck shown. I'm just a PvP nub so correct me if I'm wrong but for example Mo 11:29 shouldn't be possible with that deck after the stampede nerf. Insane God 5:45 was probably done with Scythe Fiends, not Incubator. And btw Treasure Fleet is much easier with Enlight + Batariel.
I think the decks shown are the decks Irysunna used for the speedruns of him and his team? The 11.29 of Mo was done without the use of stampede bug.
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3 hours ago, Asgard57 said:
Хахаха то есть Вы не прибегали к помощи разработчиков из ahahaha
Hahaha that is you did not resort to the help of the developers of ahahaha
My friend when you were sitting you were sitting at 6: 20 we were already playing a new tactic and we did not work because it was not ready !!!!! And if you're AFRAID to change the replays then you're afraid that your whole team will fall into the mud face and no one will be close to you to compete because your narrow circle of thinking is not able to come up with something new !!!!!!! and to Kubik ran the first you and I have there is message as you're asking test against Russian team
I really dont know what is wrong with you xD. Your argumentation is illogical and a bit childish. But i think we cant change this and we have tp accept players like you.
I just want to add one more point. It is right that we had a talk to Kubik - we were asking him if it is possible that somebody gave OUR replays to a member of your team because we were wondering that you are able to do similar times shortly after we did. Kubik clarified that this was not happening. So you know what is the difference?
We accepted that you found a similar/maybe same tactic for new guns of lyr speedrun and we not started to flame you in the way you are doing right now. So we started to improve it again and again. You should also think about that there are maybe different ways to do it faster. So how you want to know that we have the same tactic like you? This is just speculation - also from our side.
As soon as we have improved the time again and we think this is the maximum we can do - we will share it to the community.
Maybe you can use this time to accept that there is/was a fair competition.
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5 hours ago, Asgard57 said:
Now I speak on behalf of my team namely Asgard57, ducarev , aka , Alex-serg , AntoXaa . And it will be about our guesses my team made guns of lyr for 5.1. seconds after which the other team does the same thing and this team of German players !!!! After that, we began to have doubts about their game and That my doubts and doubt my team vanished, I want to offer an exchange of replays !!! And if they have copied the game as we have then I have no choice but to blame the fact that they had our replay and they watched it !!!! Not without the help of German developers !!! Well, if they replay a will vary with our I will apologize to all whom I offended !!!! And I want to hear the opinion of the team I'm talking about !!! And in case of failure to exchange replays!!! I urge the administration to resolve this conflict !!! So as we 2 team which show best times on all maps and if my rivals enjoy somehow the priemuschestvom the I not see sense play !
Asgard57 it is nice that you are willing to write something in this forum but it should make sence. Lets have a closer look at the history:
1) From October 2013-2019 the record for guns of lyr was 06.48 min.
2) The first team that was able to beat 06.48 was our team and not YOUR team. Btw we used a new tactic that was developed by ourself. For sure we are sorry for this.
3) The first team that was below 6min was our team and not your team. The first team that was below 5 min was our team and not your team.
@MephistoRoss@Kubik@MrXLink - is it possible that you can show a time list for guns of lyr speedruns for which both teams were involed?
Team "Germany" including Pritstift, Treim, Lebovin, Tomate, Wanky, BehaaaveBaby (replay times):
23.01.2019: 06.41 - beat old record - YES!!!
24.01.2019: 06.20 - improvement
25.01.2019: 06.10 - improvement
25.01.2019: 05.59 - first time below 6 min - YES!!!
26.01.2019: 05.49 - improvement
26.01.2019: 05.30 - improvement
26.01.2019: 05.29 - improvement
26.01.2016: 05.12 - improvement
01.02.2019: 05.04 - improvement
01.02.2019: 04.58 - first time below 5 min - YES!!!
XX:XX:2019: 04:XX - we will see (also without your replay)
So please stop to flame here. The Devs (no Germans) can also confirm this. You can write something here but stop to lie and to write things that are not true. You have to accept that there are also other goood players that are able to compete with you. BTW this players are not just Germans.
I think for you and your team it is a new experience that there is a team that is able to beat you also in 4player maps. Do you know how we call this in Germany?
COMPETITION.
BTW we also able to play all other 4player maps fast. We just need the time for it.
I want to clearly point out for all of my teammates that we never used any cheats or even server hacks or sth. like this. Our times are the result of good ideas hard training and skilled players.
I am sorry that the RUSSIAN speedruners cant accept this. It is also not ok that you try to involve the developers of Skylords Reborn in this. The whole team never would give out replays of other teams.
To finish this : It seems like that you and your team are just sore losers.
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On 1/1/2019 at 10:02 PM, MephistoRoss said:
Sorry for the late response, but I first wanted to see how the development is going on the speedrun rankings. And since it is going very well, the all-time rankings will be continued once the server leaderboards are up and running again to avoid any discussion about possible cheaters/fakers or having to share replays with other people.
Nice job with finishing Behind enemy lines below 12 minutes, I am sure that you are able to do it again once the rankings are working. I also did some improvements on other maps btw, so I hope we can get the Battleforge speedrunning scene back to life soon and have a nice competition.
I think it is time to update the all time Rankings again :-) ?
In January new all time records were created - old records were beaten - competition is going on. I think this is really good after a long long time without any speedruns.
I know there are still some small problems with ingame time. But i dont think this is a big problem because the showed times in the rankings are slightly slower (and not faster) compared to the time of the recorded replay?!
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10 hours ago, Navarr said:
So in your opinion it's better for the community when only a handful players know the maps and compete with each other?
I think most speedrun tactics have been developed by the community over the years and now it's all about who has the replays and remembers the stuff best. So it would be only fair to not exclude 99% of the players from playing speedruns because they needed to put too much time into researching etc. Imho rankings should be about skill too, not only knowledge.
I cant agree in this point. Most of our tactis were developed by ourself - we did not create just simple copies of existing tactics. We developed tactics on a higher Level - we invested a lot of time and trained for this a lot. If you share all the tactics to the community everybody will simple copy it . I think for speedrunning you should start to understand the mechanics of every single map by yourself. In this way you may can create better tactics and you will also be able to compete against the existing speedrunning teams.
If you know a good strategy for a pve map you can repeat it again and again until it is nearly perfect. As a consequence of this the situation is much different compared to PVP. In PVP every match can be different - so in my opinion it is no problem to share tactics here . Depending from the single situation in PVP you can decide which tactic or card combo you may like to use in the match.
Also showing the deck can be critical for the Top 3 rankings. Just one different card can make the difference here. It is not always possible to hide a strategy by adding stupid cards in it - for some speedrun decks i am using every single card because it is mandatory. If you understand the mechanics of a speedrun and the map an experienced player can read the strategy the other team may used just by checking just the deck. I can say this from my own experience - lot of tactics were copied from me and my team mates in this simple way. You also can recognize this right now - if we would show our new decks for guns of lyr speedrun everybody would get a good idea how we are able to finish this map so fast. Motivated players should better reflect for themself how this map may can be done faster and they should invest the same time to train possible tactics.
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I have the same opinion like Kubik has. I understand that you are interested to see the replays and to see what we are doing but we trained lot of hours for this and so we need to keep up some secrets. But if you may need some advice how to play a Expert Map fast you can contact me. In future i am also willing to share some replays to the BF community. Still need to play it perfect in my opinion. For 2 and 4player maps it is the decision of the whole team not just one person.
I think when you have a basic understanding of the maps and a feeling how a speedruns works you can work out some crazy tactics with your own team. If you just want to watch be patient until we or some other players will reveal some replays to the BF community.
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7 minutes ago, RadicalX said:
If you are willing to share your strategy I will cast the replays for sure!
We will share for sure.
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21 hours ago, ahha said:
Do you guys think we should confirm our records by attaching a screenshot (with all the key information covered up) ?
We can’t attach any replays because my team members don’t want to (and I respect their decision) + it will reveal teams’ most potent tactics and drafts
Anyway, wish you all good luck and hope that pve speedrun competition will live and prosper
We will respect what you are doing and that they dont want to share the replay.
But i have to mention - this rpve and not expert pve maps - so dont share replays makes less sence for me here. Every month you may have to use a different tactic. Some principles will be similar but really secret?! Treim shared a lot of replays to the community in the last years and he still is most time in front for rpve.
For my part i am planning also to show my/our special tactics for pve one and two player maps :-) Just need time to play it in the best way that it is ok for a replay to share.
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First try late that evening - 1Player LVL 10 MOTM - 23.07. For sure much room for improvement:-).
Improved time to 22.09.
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Hello Mephisto,
if you want you can add this new solo speedrun of titans to your list:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaCIwuObrr8
Thx to RadicalX for posting the replay on YouTube.
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4 hours ago, MephistoRoss said:
Sorry for the late response, but I first wanted to see how the development is going on the speedrun rankings. And since it is going very well, the all-time rankings will be continued once the server leaderboards are up and running again to avoid any discussion about possible cheaters/fakers or having to share replays with other people.
Nice job with finishing Behind enemy lines below 12 minutes, I am sure that you are able to do it again once the rankings are working. I also did some improvements on other maps btw, so I hope we can get the Battleforge speedrunning scene back to life soon and have a nice competition.
Good to hear that we will have rankings back soon. I still will support the speedrun scene but i think i will mainly focus to improve one player maps and rpve motm. Two player and four player maps are mainly based on a strategy with feeding. I recognized that strategies that include mainly feeding are boring for me and less fun. Its more fun to try some fast tactics without feeding on 2 and 4-player maps. So every player has a specific task/strategy and you need to play much more efficient. Also there will be more different ways to finish the maps fast. But until now to get the fastest times in 2player/4player rankings - feeding is required.
Would be nice to have a separate list with times that were performed without the use of decomposer (for sure amii monu and enlightenment could be also a criteria).
Instead of just seeing the deck every player has used it could be also interesting to see the timings of the players e.g. time required to get T2/T3/T4. This may could revive the pve speedrun competition for existing maps.
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Some of my favourites:
T1:
Nomad
Frost Mage
Forsaken
Windweavers
T2:
Shadow Phoenix
Fire Stalker
Shadow Mage
T3:
Ashbone Pyro
Magma Hurler
Cultist Master
T4:
Batariel
Bloodhorn
Giant Wyrm
Fire Dragon
Overlord
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If this is fixed in the way you are suggest MaranV then wall hops will be impossible for pve speedruns. Would be nice still to use it for pve wall / gate hops in the way it is. But for sure i understand the general balance problem for pvp.
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On 12/1/2018 at 11:52 PM, Treim said:
Watched the replay and can confirm the run is legit.
It is 11.58 now - you have to check Treim :-). I am finished now with this map ^^ Will try some other maps to improve.
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Hello MephistoRoss,
in the last days i was able to finish Behind Enemy Lines Expert a bit faster than you in past. Time is 12:16. Is it possible to count this run time for all-time rankings?
For now i dont want to share the replay because i want to keep up the "real" competition for this map. All i can offer are the following two screenshots (see attached). Treim also checked the replay and can confirm that this was a valid and complete run. What do you think about this?
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For Slavemaster the time was 11.52 for Treim and me. for ocean speedrun i was "undefeated" - fastest time i have in my replaylist is 15.44 - same for oracle - fastest time i have in my list is 19.09 (may close to the end of the game there is the chance that i improved this times).
All-time fastest speedrun rankings
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There was also a small update for behind enemy lines in the last days from my side:-). Still hunting to get below 12 min again.