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Shred

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  1. 12 minutes ago, nightrein said:

    Let's put this into perspective. As our friend @Shred above decided to reference, let's look at Riot. They were acquired, in the same vein Phenomic was acquired, by Tencent. Look at Riot's current business model. Did Tencent decide how the ingame microtransactions would work? Are they literally puppeteering all of Riot's decisions? No. Just because Phenomic became a subsidiary of EA does not mean that EA suddenly controlled all their decisions. It means that EA took a cut of their profits in return for them getting the EA brand and use of EA's advertising.

    EA isn't that great of a company. They're not even a good company. But come on man, really? They're not freakin' comic book villains buying up games and going "muahaha time to ruin it". They work just like any other corporation.

    I disagree. Tencent acquired Riot way after they became successful. Riot already had a working business model that exploded and made them big. Then Tencent gave them a good offer, and they took it. Notice how the game was already big and working when Tencent put their hands on it.

    On the other hand, Phenomic was acquired explicitly to make this game for EA. To my knowledge they disagreed with many of the development choices, but they coundn't do anything because EA owned them and they had no word in the matter.

    Just look at how Infinity Ward deserted from Activision and eventually joined EA as Respawn. Activision was trying to force them to make things they didn't think was right. But they had the means and the courage to show their middle fingers and gtfo because they were a very successful studio and pretty much anyone on the market would hire them instantly. Back then, Phenomic was not in a situation when they could just casually say no to EA and be on their way, so they had to do as EA told them to. And that inevitably caused their downfall.

    Good thing you brought up advertising, because i have seen none of that happening. Only a couple dozen thousand people ever knew this game even existed. No hype, no trailers, nothing. The Battleforge Announcement trailer didn't even manage to get 500k views on youtube until today. I record a video of myself shitting and get more views than that. What advertising do we speak of exactly?

    EA is the type of villain who doesn't want to be one, but they make so many mistakes and terrible business decisions, that they make a lot of people mad, and eventually they'll be treated as villains.

  2. 13 minutes ago, nightrein said:

    Phenomic was effectively a different group from what you call "EA" as a whole. Remember, Battleforge died because Phenomic TANKED. The group keeping the game running died, and the game went down with them. EA maybe could have picked it up, but at that point it was dead. Playerbase would've been sub-500 people. The game was getting no love because Phenomic was actively bleeding resources for years. Do you really think EA could have resuscitated it?

    I get the EA hate, but ffs this is the dumbest place you could froth about it.

    Phenomic was a victim of EA's horrible "P4F" business model. EASY was another studio destined to die due to the same reason. All I'm seeing is a publisher buying multiple studios and then letting THEM bleed out after they made mistakes. All of this in times when League of Legends and other very successful F2P titles were already blossoming, effectively statuating a good example of how games can succeed with being TRULY and ENTIRELY (as the name suggests) free to ACTUALLY play.

    I agree though. Not the best place to argue about this matter, but it came up regardless.

  3. 39 minutes ago, anonyme0273 said:

    You gotta realize EA didn't have to do this. Rather than complaining, you could show some grattitude to the creators of this project, the staff, to Ardent Peak, the community AND even EA. As sad and dissapointing it was seeing the game die back in the old days, it's nice to see it come back and EA is not standing in the way. It's enough to be at least a bit thankful for :) 

    They shouldnt have shut the original game down in the first place, but they are only about money and this game was not making enough for them, because the fucked up the whole business model and couldn't care less about it.

    Yes, this move was nice from EA. Yes, they seem to be getting better. But one of these "okay guys, we won't kill you legally, and you can keep working on our trash that we threw away because we are stupid" will not solve the problem.

    It was a nice move. But I still have plenty of reason to hate this company with a passion. And I'm not the only one.

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