SunWu
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You will have to excuse me on this one, but no. Nature is one of if not the only faction that uses their T1 Units and Spells in T2 and T3. I am sorry, but I can not tell you how many times nature players drop Shammy or Dryad (Green or Blue) in T2 and T3. In root decks TS's are used as a support unit and a very needed one to make that type of deck more viable, a buff to spikey would not hurt either. But your claim that T1 units are not used is bogus I am sorry but they are used often especially in nature.
Furthermore, I ask again, if TS's are so Godly in the game, why was the game not flooded with Nature players who played T1? Even the most common stonekin, and twilight players started with the opposite color's T1. And once again if you see someone spamming tree's, feel free to take a free well, and hope the player is stupid enough to attack. When he does hide behind the well.
I think he wasn't talking about the typical oldschool natureplayer here, but more about the ,,Aragorn special'' wich comes with only two T1 units, including amazon wich is still useful in T2.
While shadow (swift,forsaken+nox), fire (sunstriders,scavy) and frost (MAs, IGs) in their minimal state have to bring at least two T1 units wich arent T2 worthy, he has to include only one. So Frozenripper somehow has a point here. As someone who mostly played without phasetower and mortar i can tell you it can be annoying playing against this type of deck (actually quite a lot of mid-high gold ranked players played this in the end). It always felt hard to get a siginficant advantage against those stonekin players to stop them from playing out their big T3. I guess there were several tactics to beat this strategy, still i also come to the conclusion that the deckslot advantage + the points RadicalX, Anonymos and others mentioned show that trees can hurt the game if they are not used like you or beijjingguy used to (never saw him spaming them, maybe he did in nature mirrors,i don't know).
Sorry Nachtalb, for every arguing post here, i will compensate with a green rep for you somewhere else !
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I would say this is the main reason Tree Spirit is so op, guess which "Heir of Isildur" never wins t1(but very rarely loses because of Tree Spirit Spam) or t2, just waits to t3 and then uses Brannoc with shadow t3(all them heals, cc and buffs with most op t3 unit, he has like 4-5 cards t3) in all high ranked games he ever won. And one more thing because this "Heir of Isildur" likes to say how he micros a lot and has 5 card t1, when u count t1 cards u should only count units, because units are only used in t1 and never after, while spells are used all game long, especially nature t1 spells, any other faction must have more t1 units to be viable and this alone gives unfair advantage in t2 and t3, because all your t1 units are just wasted slots in t2 or t3. For example when u play fire/nature u have many nature t1 spells in your deck for your t2 but u never use Scavenger, Thugs or Sunstriders after your t2 is up, etc. There are some units and situations when you do use t1 units after t2 but they are vary rare and im talking in general. Then there is 0 micro braindead turtle t1 play style. This card should be removed from the game or reworked completely.
Hey ! Nice to see you back, LostRipper ...i mean FrozenChronus ! I'm glad to see you settled that beef with the ,,Heir of Isildur'' !
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What is your opinion of highrank? Fury ?
Im 95.843% sure that high ranks dont have different balancing wishes but you all cant understand that 99% of your balancing suggestions are useless because your not able to destroy situations/counter a better play and the fact should be its "OP".
That are 2 different shoes.
There still 3-5 cards that can be reworked a little bit. Thats for sure but all in one the game was balanced and there was no instant loss.
The better player was able to win every single match against a player under his niveau. (exept on wazhai & some stupid unsymmetrical rndm generated 'maps ;D)
Do you know the sentence "You'll understand it when you get older." ? Its clearly the same here.
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MaranV is the best example that high rank player can give stupid balancing suggestions too.
But he never played outside of his Stonekin. Thats why he never understood some mechanics, stack at lower rank for the real high ranks in PvP and was not able to beat players with a demigod-prime rank.
@RadicalX I mean you cant really compare killroy and hiroo with other players in the last year of bf. What do you think about that splitted "skills" community downwards demigod?
,,What is your opinion of highrank? Fury ?'' Funny, but no, i would say sage and upwards
,,Im 95.843% sure that high ranks dont have different balancing wishes'' You mentioned two cards you wish to balance in another thread, Radical mentioned 3 different cards, Matmickback said there's nothing to balance, so there you go: 2 1/2 highranks, 3 different opinions, how can you still be sure ?
,,The better player was able to win every single match against a player under his niveau.'' Could be true if he didn't play bandits. Tell me, why is matmickback so proud of making rank 7 with a bandit twink, why are you so proud of beating Hirooo with a bandit deck. You have to admit these statements don't fit into your ,,every deck has the same overall strenght'' agenda. If there was balance it wouldn't be something special to be succesfull with bandits.
,,Do you know the sentence "You'll understand it when you get older." ?'' Sentences like those won't do you anything good in a discussion, maybe you''ll understand it when you get older ; )
,,MaranV is the best example that high rank player can give stupid balancing suggestions too.'' Please stop it with the namedropping, not only is it against the forum rules but it's also kind of a b****move as long as he isn't here to defend himself.
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I don't know about that ,,elite-player-council'' for the balancing decissions, i would have said great idea a few months ago. But in this forum, i've seen respected highranks having totally different opinions about balancing (wich means some of them are wrong from the start), i've yet to hear one highrank say something about bandits being UP (seems like they want to leave that faction unplayable...k), and also ego-tripping and other 12 year oldish behaviour wich doesn't help in any complex discussion. I wouldn't want those players to speak for myself and many others. That is if there aren't 5-10 more former highranks in the end, who are actually able to have a rational debate.
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Nachtalb wanted everybody to just state the issues one thinks there are to get an overwiew, but now there are 3 posts of arguing and 2 oh-so-funny-troll posts already, also one post wich says we should all stop discussing because he doesn't like it, wich is ridiculous.
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please please please stop those discusiions about certain cards until we have a stable server its just pointless aslong there is no data to build on.
btw i dont understand why so many ppl complain about nature dont have acsess to an stron m/m counter or pure fires weakness vs wareagle.
the pure coulors iin battleforge use to have alot of favoured/unfavoured machups for a reason... i dont think it was ever intendet to give every possible machup a 50/50 winrate at all
Why is it pointless to talk about cards ? It's the battleforge forum, you can stay away from the discussion if you think it's pointless but you can't stop us from discussing. It's our time that we are wasting and maybe someone might develope a good idea from time to time. Even if it is your opinion that i'm mistaken and all these threads are unneeded.
No data to build on ? Lots of players with years of experience registred here. I wonder what data you refer to - in former balancing disussions there was never any replay analysis or whatsoever, it was always talk from experience only.
The balancing debates in the old forum (partially led by players who's opinion even you two respect) mostly aimed for approaching a 50/50 winrate in every matchup, i think this idea was also always supported by the devs.
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says typical fish things
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I HAVE ISSUES:
- bandits being underpowered vs frostsplash T2s
- cursewell being overpowered in frostsplash T3s
- shield building being overpowered
- war eagle + stormsinger(ability) being overpowered vs pure fire and fire/nature T2
- firedancers over cliffs/walls being overpowered
- the (bug ab)use of netherwarp (green) casted on shadow mages being overpowered
. Brannoc's special ability being too strong
- pure nature being slightly underpowered vs certain m-unit attacks in early T2
- lost grigori's special ability being slightly too strong
- phasetower and mortar being slightly too strong
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I hope that you guys understand right now why many "high ranked" players dont comment those threads because it makes no scense and only a few people are reading posts completely.
i tried it but it seems to be a never ending story.
Im out
I always thought it's because of the lack of highranked players in general....or because high ELO doesn't automatically mean wise and interested in balance....or because some highranked players loved the abuse of unbalanced tactics....or because they're simply to lazy and rather use their time to farm ELO...
but you think it has to be because people don't apreciate every single one of your words as if they are pure gold ? C'mon that's a bit melodramatic !
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the only way to balance cards is a competetive envirement otherwise cc spells like oink/freeze and aoe effects e.g. lavafield, aoc, eru would be unbalanceable cause the efficence of those obviously scales with mistakes the opponent does.
I would like to know your and HighTechs standpoint when it comes to bandits in the current state of balance. Because it wasn't mentioned but obvious even to non-primes that bandits is really unplayable if you want to reach the top spot with other equally skilled players around. Also curse well in a frost splash - what's the counterplay to that card on equal power ?
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is the pixel police !
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should know i just got my brand new signature !
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became pudding by accident -
has this pudding thing going wich i don't really know about.
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For this i would ask every participant to rate their skill on a scale from 1 to 10. This would be based on trust, but we have a good community, so i think this would work.
Well, i guess i'm a seven !?
One day i will be an eight !Pssst...Silverdragen will tell you he's a 10 eventhough he's a 9 !
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Whatever and whenever it will be, sign me in for 1vs1 !
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not a fan of dubstepmixes normally, still a nice listen, probably cause i like the original - 7/10
one of my favourite Rap-Clips of the last years:
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Should smoke some bong.
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Is typing stereotypes.
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Good at maths and okay at fire/nature !
edit: and fun to watch playing poker...i will have to duell you there, too, some time !
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Close to being the first with:
1000 posts and
100 reps !
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Lancers actually have excellent stats for their low power cost and their branding ability can make a lot of T2 units surpsiringly useful in T3 (like shadow Phoenix).
I don't get it. How do lancers and phoenix work together ?
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Here is my song.
6/10 for the music, 3/10 for the singing, 8/10 sp00ky, overall 6/10
In the morning time i rather choose something laid back, may this great musician rest in peace:
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Reminds us of the fascinating contrasts of personality with his kind, friendly lion pic and the mean, grim harvy in his sig.