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What is your opinion of highrank? Fury ?
Im 95.843% sure that high ranks dont have different balancing wishes but you all cant understand that 99% of your balancing suggestions are useless because your not able to destroy situations/counter a better play and the fact should be its "OP".
That are 2 different shoes.
There still 3-5 cards that can be reworked a little bit. Thats for sure but all in one the game was balanced and there was no instant loss.
The better player was able to win every single match against a player under his niveau. (exept on wazhai & some stupid unsymmetrical rndm generated 'maps ;D)
Do you know the sentence "You'll understand it when you get older." ? Its clearly the same here.
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MaranV is the best example that high rank player can give stupid balancing suggestions too.
But he never played outside of his Stonekin. Thats why he never understood some mechanics, stack at lower rank for the real high ranks in PvP and was not able to beat players with a demigod-prime rank.
@RadicalX I mean you cant really compare killroy and hiroo with other players in the last year of bf. What do you think about that splitted "skills" community downwards demigod?
,,What is your opinion of highrank? Fury ?'' Funny, but no, i would say sage and upwards
,,Im 95.843% sure that high ranks dont have different balancing wishes'' You mentioned two cards you wish to balance in another thread, Radical mentioned 3 different cards, Matmickback said there's nothing to balance, so there you go: 2 1/2 highranks, 3 different opinions, how can you still be sure ?
,,The better player was able to win every single match against a player under his niveau.'' Could be true if he didn't play bandits. Tell me, why is matmickback so proud of making rank 7 with a bandit twink, why are you so proud of beating Hirooo with a bandit deck. You have to admit these statements don't fit into your ,,every deck has the same overall strenght'' agenda. If there was balance it wouldn't be something special to be succesfull with bandits.
,,Do you know the sentence "You'll understand it when you get older." ?'' Sentences like those won't do you anything good in a discussion, maybe you''ll understand it when you get older ; )
,,MaranV is the best example that high rank player can give stupid balancing suggestions too.'' Please stop it with the namedropping, not only is it against the forum rules but it's also kind of a b****move as long as he isn't here to defend himself.
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I don't know about that ,,elite-player-council'' for the balancing decissions, i would have said great idea a few months ago. But in this forum, i've seen respected highranks having totally different opinions about balancing (wich means some of them are wrong from the start), i've yet to hear one highrank say something about bandits being UP (seems like they want to leave that faction unplayable...k), and also ego-tripping and other 12 year oldish behaviour wich doesn't help in any complex discussion. I wouldn't want those players to speak for myself and many others. That is if there aren't 5-10 more former highranks in the end, who are actually able to have a rational debate.
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Nachtalb wanted everybody to just state the issues one thinks there are to get an overwiew, but now there are 3 posts of arguing and 2 oh-so-funny-troll posts already, also one post wich says we should all stop discussing because he doesn't like it, wich is ridiculous.
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please please please stop those discusiions about certain cards until we have a stable server its just pointless aslong there is no data to build on.
btw i dont understand why so many ppl complain about nature dont have acsess to an stron m/m counter or pure fires weakness vs wareagle.
the pure coulors iin battleforge use to have alot of favoured/unfavoured machups for a reason... i dont think it was ever intendet to give every possible machup a 50/50 winrate at all
Why is it pointless to talk about cards ? It's the battleforge forum, you can stay away from the discussion if you think it's pointless but you can't stop us from discussing. It's our time that we are wasting and maybe someone might develope a good idea from time to time. Even if it is your opinion that i'm mistaken and all these threads are unneeded.
No data to build on ? Lots of players with years of experience registred here. I wonder what data you refer to - in former balancing disussions there was never any replay analysis or whatsoever, it was always talk from experience only.
The balancing debates in the old forum (partially led by players who's opinion even you two respect) mostly aimed for approaching a 50/50 winrate in every matchup, i think this idea was also always supported by the devs.
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says typical fish things
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I HAVE ISSUES:
- bandits being underpowered vs frostsplash T2s
- cursewell being overpowered in frostsplash T3s
- shield building being overpowered
- war eagle + stormsinger(ability) being overpowered vs pure fire and fire/nature T2
- firedancers over cliffs/walls being overpowered
- the (bug ab)use of netherwarp (green) casted on shadow mages being overpowered
. Brannoc's special ability being too strong
- pure nature being slightly underpowered vs certain m-unit attacks in early T2
- lost grigori's special ability being slightly too strong
- phasetower and mortar being slightly too strong
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I hope that you guys understand right now why many "high ranked" players dont comment those threads because it makes no scense and only a few people are reading posts completely.
i tried it but it seems to be a never ending story.
Im out
I always thought it's because of the lack of highranked players in general....or because high ELO doesn't automatically mean wise and interested in balance....or because some highranked players loved the abuse of unbalanced tactics....or because they're simply to lazy and rather use their time to farm ELO...
but you think it has to be because people don't apreciate every single one of your words as if they are pure gold ? C'mon that's a bit melodramatic !
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the only way to balance cards is a competetive envirement otherwise cc spells like oink/freeze and aoe effects e.g. lavafield, aoc, eru would be unbalanceable cause the efficence of those obviously scales with mistakes the opponent does.
I would like to know your and HighTechs standpoint when it comes to bandits in the current state of balance. Because it wasn't mentioned but obvious even to non-primes that bandits is really unplayable if you want to reach the top spot with other equally skilled players around. Also curse well in a frost splash - what's the counterplay to that card on equal power ?
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is the pixel police !
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should know i just got my brand new signature !
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became pudding by accident
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has this pudding thing going wich i don't really know about.
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For this i would ask every participant to rate their skill on a scale from 1 to 10. This would be based on trust, but we have a good community, so i think this would work.
Well, i guess i'm a seven !?
One day i will be an eight !
Pssst...Silverdragen will tell you he's a 10 eventhough he's a 9 !
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Whatever and whenever it will be, sign me in for 1vs1 !
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not a fan of dubstepmixes normally, still a nice listen, probably cause i like the original - 7/10
one of my favourite Rap-Clips of the last years:
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Should smoke some bong.
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Is typing stereotypes.
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Good at maths and okay at fire/nature !
edit: and fun to watch playing poker...i will have to duell you there, too, some time !
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Close to being the first with:
1000 posts and
100 reps !
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Lancers actually have excellent stats for their low power cost and their branding ability can make a lot of T2 units surpsiringly useful in T3 (like shadow Phoenix).
I don't get it. How do lancers and phoenix work together ?
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Here is my song.
6/10 for the music, 3/10 for the singing, 8/10 sp00ky, overall 6/10
In the morning time i rather choose something laid back, may this great musician rest in peace:
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ahahahahahahah "then stand by your word and play somthing thats not lost souls in ranked for a change" hahahahahahahaah ur so funny guy i can bring u so much games i was playing pure fire bandits even frost fire in ranked.. i was playing and lameing cuz when i lamed it was so fun to see someone lose and cry... someone like u.. u want to tell me i reach to top with only LS deck? comeon... u know u say bullshit so pls stfu.. if i played LS it was vs top rank player like u know i wont remind them right now.. if u want to tell me im good im already knows that so u cant compre u to me.. or u to anyone of the top lvl players.. i remmber u and i remmber ur lame too.. u played anydeck? rly? u played anydeck and lost with any deck.. cuz u was low.. if u played pure fire u had a chance to distroy a powerwell but nothing more.. ur more of a fairplay guy? i rly can give a fuck on that.. u know why? cuz anyone in the game wants to win! if u win u having fun and can say what u want but if u lose u can close ur mouth and try to get more skills to handel better players then u.. ye i was lameing and i loved that cuz i won with that! some guys just saw me with LS deck and just leave the match cuz they know they cant do shit about my playstyle and im prettysure if u were like me and had my game style u were talking like me aswell... about my most fun matchs.. it was t1 and t2.. my t3 was so op that if i had adv u already lost so nothing to talk about that.. i never lost when i had tremor in the map.. about my t1.. if u saw me playing t1 u know im one of the best t1 shadow in game.. not the best cuz u always got some mistakes u r not a robot like cdkillroy that never had mistake with immortaldragon acc.. i get my adc in t1 fight then t2 frost starting get my mounteirs out and then it becoms gg cuz most of the players dont know how to stop that.. its too much to handel two mountiers with homesoil.. nothing can stop that and thats what fun in the game if u got the lead u got win.. but u create the lead! not ur cards and not op crads.. my wins starts in t1 fight.. allways! if u will start have skills u will know what i know.. ty for idiotic stuff.. read and Internalize
that's the problem with some of ya highrank dudes, your set of values; ELO/skill > respect/intelligence/logic/kindness//fairplay
I think you will understand i will not engage in anymore mud-wrestling as the quality of the thread now reaches a BFcards.info-commentsection level.
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maybe it would.. and maybe not.. i dont think so dude..the lame way is the fun way if u want it or not i dont think that if the game will beome balance it will be More fun then it was... i think bafo was perfect game.. if ea was upload a patch every month or something like that this game could have much more then 5000+- players atm.. u know u allways need some new stuff or it will be be boring.. this game is the best game i played and i dont want it to be change if u think it will be more fun if it will be balance so u rly rly wrong..u saying that cuz u lost to lame alot and u didnt know how to win that lame..the lame way was good but not that good u always can lose if u dont have skills so i said it befor and i will say it know.. if u got good skills u can win anyone with any kind of deck vs any kind of lame.. i was lameing with mountnier if u remmber this card.. was op aswall but if i had a mistake in the game im dead.. so i had skills and u were right i was a really good player cuz i had skills that i used to win any player with any deck.. i played bandits but not in the main acc^^ i had good score and didnt want to risk that so i opened new acc and i won alot of matches even against counters and lame... cuz of what? cuz i had skills.. this game work on skills and tactics.. if u know how to play u will know how to handel the tactics that the player against you is useing.. i knew how to handel it just fine and i think that anyone can learn how to do that.. if u think that deck is underpowered i dont want to Insult you but you r noob... any deck can be good if u know how to play with it.. pure nature stonkin or even fire frost.. all thought that this decks are sucks.. if u play againt hiroo and he playing fire frost u dead in sec doesnt metter if u got lame or not.. some players could win him cuz they played better and knew how to take adv on him(im in the list too) but not cuz we had lame.. cuz we had skills and tactics! u know its hard to rich the top lvl in game.. i did that and anyone can do that.. i played ranked 1v1 and 2v2 with the top players and it was fun cuz we had lame lol.. me and maranv had nick name "lame bro" cuz we had the most fun when we played with or against lame so my point is that... if u want it or not the lame game style is rly necessary and this game wont be the same without it.. bilve me kid i know im saying..
,,the lame way is the fun way'' - i know, right ? What were your most fun matches ? Those without T1 and T2 and 20 minute exciting cursewelling while defending only ? Or those where you lost to Taker because he cliffed you ?
,,if u think it will be more fun if it will be balance so u rly rly wrong..u saying that cuz u lost to lame alot'' - I played almost every deck and sometimes i won against players that were better than me because my deck was overpowering theirs. I can imagaine a person like you sees no problem here, but i'm more of a fairplay guy. Also it's quite disrespectful to accuse me of wanting to change the game only because i'm missing skill...
,,any deck can be good if u know how to play with it.'' Then stand by your word and play something that's not lost souls in ranked for a change ?
,,bla bla bla i'm so good y'all just noob stop cry'' Not in the mood to deal with all of your nonsense right now.
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Hey ! Nice to see you back, LostRipper ...i mean FrozenChronus ! I'm glad to see you settled that beef with the ,,Heir of Isildur'' !