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"Take MY money and take MY soul and take MY GF, also take MY Happines, and make it happen. 
I don't have any of the listed things tho. "

If you say take my GF do you mean me? your forum bae, or do you have a gf I don't know about TRIGGERED THINKING :thinking:

 

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1 hour ago, batorfly said:

Are we going to turn this glorious topic to next shitposting rep farm guys? Please, yesn't, i no want this. :thinking:

well if i am looking at the previous pages it allready kinda is that....

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14 hours ago, Pseudojurist said:

Any chance this game will ever work again? 

I'm waiting for over a year now and lost my faith already.

:OOO I'm also waiting since a pretty long time but keep believing in it bro,.. the time will come soon. Just read the latest dev logs to restore your faith :D When you really have waited over 1 year for this project getting released, then one or two months more won't matter that all :) 

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22 hours ago, BFlove123 said:

iam just happy they making pretty fast the game and work all time ! (DONT THINK WITH 5-6 DUDES YOU CAN HAVE IT FAST ! FOR 5-6 THEY DO PRETTY GOOD... ITS NOT EZ..) + i w8 from 2015.. and?

I am also waiting since 2015, I even started to play LoL out of desperation.. sadlife :salt:

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On 7/11/2018 at 12:51 AM, Pseudojurist said:

Any chance this game will ever work again? 

I'm waiting for over a year now and lost my faith already.

It does work again, just not 100% to our liking and a few bugs and other issues.

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On 7/11/2018 at 12:51 AM, Pseudojurist said:

Any chance this game will ever work again? 

I'm waiting for over a year now and lost my faith already.

5 hours ago, Kiwi said:

It does work again, just not 100% to our liking and a few bugs and other issues.

 

I cannot fathom how some people believe this whole project, with beta testers and all, is a scam and will never work again.

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On 7/13/2018 at 5:26 PM, Xeapor said:

 

I cannot fathom how some people believe this whole project, with beta testers and all, is a scam and will never work again.

Its not... ?

How do you explain all the streamers and video's with gameplaycontent if the game was not working? 

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On 7/13/2018 at 4:26 PM, Xeapor said:

 

I cannot fathom how some people believe this whole project, with beta testers and all, is a scam and will never work again.

We have around 276 members that have access to closed beta and some stream or upload videos on a regular basis, I am not sure how you can call this project a scam. If you believe we're a scam then why are you wasting your time being here and trying to drag this project down, what are you gaining from this? if you don't want to wait patiently for us to finish this then it's simple, just leave, we aren't forcing you to be here, but please just remember, the developers, moderators, admins, community manager work on this project in our spare time, we DO NOT get paid, we DO NOT use donations for our own benefit but we DO work our asses off to bring this amazing game back to life for you all.

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13 hours ago, SilenceKiller99 said:

Its not... ?

How do you explain all the streamers and video's with gameplaycontent if the game was not working? 

7 hours ago, Kiwi said:

We have around 276 members that have access to closed beta and some stream or upload videos on a regular basis, I am not sure how you can call this project a scam. If you believe we're a scam then why are you wasting your time being here and trying to drag this project down, what are you gaining from this? if you don't want to wait patiently for us to finish this then it's simple, just leave, we aren't forcing you to be here, but please just remember, the developers, moderators, admins, community manager work on this project in our spare time, we DO NOT get paid, we DO NOT use donations for our own benefit but we DO work our asses off to bring this amazing game back to life for you all.

You both misunderstood what I was saying, I don't think it's a scam.


What I was saying was I don't understand how people think this is a scam.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Xeapor said:

You both misunderstood what I was saying, I don't think it's a scam.


What I was saying was I don't understand how people think this is a scam.

 

 

Oh sorry about that I do apologize ^_^

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1 hour ago, Kiwi said:

Oh sorry about that I do apologize ^_^

Oh, no problem at all, I worded a bit weird as well.

 

Anyway, I should stop posting this off topic stuff now since this thread is for open beta discussion and the such.

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6 hours ago, Xeapor said:

Oh, no problem at all, I worded a bit weird as well.

 

Anyway, I should stop posting this off topic stuff now since this thread is for open beta discussion and the such.

Lol yeah bro your wordening was misleading a bit I guess :D let me grammatically investigate your sentence:

On 7/13/2018 at 5:26 PM, Xeapor said:

 

I cannot fathom how some people believe this whole project, with beta testers and all, is a scam and will never work again.

So in german grammar the Main sentence is sepperated from the relative sentences by a comma. So your main sentence would be "I cannot fathom how some people believe this whole project". Which clearly is a complaint and implifiying that you don't believe this project. simply. but if you take the relative sentence at the end in addition. which belongs to the main sentence due to grammar rules afaik. "I cannot fathom how some peope believe this whole project is a scam and will never work again." Is also clearly a statement of your trust in the project and your support, which is kewl :D

Tbh when I first read your post, I already started my answer to try to explain you WHY the people don't believe into the project, but didn't send it coz I thought it'd be useless at all. I'm just wondering why I seem to be the only one that understood you the first time bruh ;( 

I don't even know why I'm writing this right now, probably because it's fucking early in the morning rn and my coffee ain't working yet :thinking:

Also about the whole commata thing. In germany an old "joke" about comma usage is this one:
"Komm, wir essen Opa!" != "Komm wir essen, Opa!" 
The first sentence would mean, Yo Let's go bois, let's eat grandpa. The second sentence would mean, Hey yo Grandfather let's go eat something very yummy!

So now after I tought y'all a very important & useful lesson I can stop writing this roman :D I should go to sleep again :thinking:

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On 7/17/2018 at 2:42 PM, Kiwi said:

We have around 276 members that have access to closed beta and some stream or upload videos on a regular basis, I am not sure how you can call this project a scam. If you believe we're a scam then why are you wasting your time being here and trying to drag this project down, what are you gaining from this? if you don't want to wait patiently for us to finish this then it's simple, just leave, we aren't forcing you to be here, but please just remember, the developers, moderators, admins, community manager work on this project in our spare time, we DO NOT get paid, we DO NOT use donations for our own benefit but we DO work our asses off to bring this amazing game back to life for you all.

Tbh I can understand why some people think this is a scam.

1. This game is in development since 2015 and as far as I remember the first thing you showed us back then was already the forge. So the visually game itself pretty much worked again. So it's unbelivable that the "small" issue to make this game capable to play online took 3 years. (I know it's not a "small" issue but because the issue of a program is hidden behind the graphic of the game it's not that obvious.)

2. You delayed the release of this game from Dec 2017 to Jan 2018 to Mar 2018 to unknown. And all of the delays were pretty much last minute. So when you thought you could stick to the dates till the very end, why does it still take months to do the remaining small work you originally thought you could have done in less than a week?

3. You already get money from this project. And considering that this is true for about 3 years, the amount should be quite big by now. Sure you said you don't use it for personal matters but for one thing there is no reason for us to believe you and for another thing we don't know what happens to the remaining amount. You wouldn't burn it or something? :D

4. A person who doesn't believe in this project wouldn't read any line of text in this forum, would they? So they would miss some informations like streams or updates.

While I still believe in this project, I also can't deny that at least some question marks about 2 and 3 never came up to me. I absolutely don't write this because I want to drag this project down. Quite the opposite I write this because I want to eliminate those question marks so I can fullly be hyped about a soon release again.

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2 hours ago, Chibiterasu said:

Tbh I can understand why some people think this is a scam.

1. This game is in development since 2015 and as far as I remember the first thing you showed us back then was already the forge. So the visually game itself pretty much worked again. So it's unbelivable that the "small" issue to make this game capable to play online took 3 years. (I know it's not a "small" issue but because the issue of a program is hidden behind the graphic of the game it's not that obvious.)

2. You delayed the release of this game from Dec 2017 to Jan 2018 to Mar 2018 to unknown. And all of the delays were pretty much last minute. So when you thought you could stick to the dates till the very end, why does it still take months to do the remaining small work you originally thought you could have done in less than a week?

3. You already get money from this project. And considering that this is true for about 3 years, the amount should be quite big by now. Sure you said you don't use it for personal matters but for one thing there is no reason for us to believe you and for another thing we don't know what happens to the remaining amount. You wouldn't burn it or something? :D

4. A person who doesn't believe in this project wouldn't read any line of text in this forum, would they? So they would miss some informations like streams or updates.

While I still believe in this project, I also can't deny that at least some question marks about 2 and 3 never came up to me. I absolutely don't write this because I want to drag this project down. Quite the opposite I write this because I want to eliminate those question marks so I can fullly be hyped about a soon release again.

1. It's been underdevelopment for so long because we do this in our spare time not 24-7. We had to reverse engineer everything before we even started working on anything else, then we had to re-code from C# to C++ which took more time than we thought, we tried hosting the server on windows and that made too many problems do had to go back to Linux, there is more than just the simple "coding" that everyone seems to think is being needed. The code that EA left behind is a mess, as in it basically shouldn't even work but it does and the developers have to work it all out and change it into something they understand. If you see streams now you can see game play (Both PvE, PvP and rPvE games, Auction House, Mail, Direct Trade and Forge) so no, it's not just the Forge still. The only main issue is freezes, crashes and 12 player maps not being playable due to as I mentioned already the coding being such a huge mess.

2. Mistakes where made and the developers thought they could get it out in time but in the end couldn't because problems got in the way like they do in game development all the time, we apologized and that is why we no longer give set dates or times regarding Open Beta.

3. We get money from the project in a sense yes but it all goes towards server upkeep which we barely manage to reach (good servers aren't cheap) and we literally have barely any spare left over (the spare is being saved up for other things that we might need in the future like more servers etc). We also do not force people to donate nor do we expect people to donate. Considering all the staff have jobs I am not sure what we'd spend it on plus the amount we have left over wouldn't even buy a pizza. Keep in mind, some staff have even donated their money into this project themselves (Not that anyone seems to care of course). Finally I'd like to add we LEGALLY can't make any money from this game if we do we risk it being closed down and we don't want to risk that so why would we "spend" the money left over? It would mean a waste of these 3 years of blood, sweat and tears. I can tell you I have not been paid $0.01 since I became Moderator for this project, that's why I have two jobs just to get by.

4. Most people who think we're a scam have been around usually a month or even less and just assume that because they've been here 30 days or so and it hasn't been released that we're a scam. That or the fact when we do giveaways and they don't get access to Closed Beta they throw little tantrums and call us all names under the sun. They don't need to be here to see the streams or updates, it's all on our discord we have a stream channel and a channel for development updates (which is easy to see and have access to). If they don't read stuff before speaking not much we can do about that sadly.

I get why people are losing hope I truly do and I don't blame them, but if they where true fans would they give up? Take the World Cup for example, you want your team to do the best they can and sometimes they don't get to the finals but they at least tried right? and regardless of the outcome you're always there. Well we're trying our asses off, how do you think it makes the staff feel to see people dragging this project in the mud while we're here for free doing this for everyone asking for nothing in return. I can tell you it's pretty shit, we made mistakes I get that but we all do, we're human it's what we do right?

Anyway sorry about this huge wall of text, I hope I responded to all of your questions. If you want to ask anything else please send me a pm and I'll happily take the time to reply to you. So we can keep this thread on topic. Thanks.

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