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Battle of Tactics #8: Maximum Support - Until 13.04.2025 23:59 CEST


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Great greetings People of the Sky

It has been a hot minute since the last BOT, but I´m beyond happy to challenge all of you in Battle of Tactics #8 – Maximum Support. (But not for you)

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The Challenge:

You play a Community map, a modified version of Oracle (changes can be found in the FAQ section)

But you don’t start the map by playing units. Instead, you start by selecting the buffs and debuffs for your run.
The more you've activated, the more points you will get but also the harder the challenge will be.
To activate a building, use the switches near it. If it is active, the switch changes to a gold chest.
Activating multiple switches of one building increases the level / up time and points.

After 60 sec or after using the “GO” switch, you gain your starting energy and wells, and the challenge begins.

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The Buffs / Debuffs / Building / Points:

Soulstone_FullCard.webp Lv1 35p
30->30
Lv2 80p
Permanent*
   
 
   
 
Fountain_of_Rebirth_FullCard.webp Lv1 35p
30->30
Lv2 80p
Permanent*
   
 
   
 
Fleshbender_FullCard.webp Lv1 35p
30->20
Lv2 80p
Permanent*
   
 
   
 
Healing_Gardens_FullCard.webp Lv1 50p
Permanent*
   
 
   
 
   
 
Wheel_of_Gifts_FullCard.webp Red 50p
Permanent
Green 50p
Permanent
Blue 70p
Permanent
   
 
The_Incredible_Mo_FullCard.webp Green 50p
Permanent
Yellow 70p
Permanent
   
 
   
 
Lost_Disruptor_FullCard.webp Lv1 20p
20->20->20
Lv2 40p
20->20->20
Lv3 60p
Permanent*
   
 
Frontier_Keep_FullCard.webp Lv1 30p
15->15->15->15
Lv2 60p
15->15->15->15
Lv3 90p
15->15->15->15
Lv4 120p
Permanent*
Infernal_Machine_FullCard.webp Lv1 30p
15->15->15->15
Lv2 60p
15->15->15->15
Lv3 90p
15->15->15->15
Lv4 120p
Permanent*
Oracle_Mask_FullCard.webp Lv1 30p
15->15->15->15
Lv2 60p
15->15->15->15
Lv3 90p
15->15->15->15
Lv4 120p
Permanent*

Permanent*: there is always a small delay between activations.

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Ranking:

Main Ranking:
     The player with the most points wins.
     The tie breaker is the finishing time.

Stamp Ranking:
     For each of the 3 sections there is a time-based ranking:
     1. Start of the game, till you've cleared the first camp and the shamans starts moving
     2. From the first camp clear, till the start of the boss fight
     3. From the boss fight start, till the end of the match

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In conclusion:

Map:                   Community map: "Battle of Tactics 8" (copy of Oracle)
Difficulty:            Advanced
Goal:                   Finish the map with the most points and as fast as possible
Until when:         13.04.2025 23:59 CET
Winner Stream:  19.04.2025 19:00 CET via my Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/ultralord_t1421)
How to join:        Upload your Replay at https://t1421.de
                            You can upload as often as you like, the page keeps your best run for the ranking.
                            Replays can be found in your Documents folder (C:\Users\xxx\Documents\BattleForge\replays\)

How to play the map:

Spoiler

To access the map for the contest (or any community map), select the blue icon in the far lower right corner:
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Search for "Battle of Tactics #8"

If you have problems downloading/starting the map, you can try to clean up your map folder and try again:
Close BattleForge, delete all files in C:\Users\xxx\Documents\BattleForge\map\, and try again.

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Prizes:

Main Ranking:
1st Place 5 General Boosters                       + Construct (Promo)
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2st Place 4 General Boosters                       + Mana Wing (Promo)
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3st Place 3 General Boosters                       + Lyrish Knight (Promo)
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4st Place 2 General Boosters                       + Forest Elder [G]
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5st Place 1 General Boosters                       + Avatar of Frost
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6st - 10st Place 1 General Boosters             + One of: Mine, Shadow Worm, Razorleaf, Nether Warp [G], Church of Negation
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11st - 20st                                                   + One of: Comet Catcher, Nox Carrier [P], Wrathgazer, Thunder Wagon [B], Volcano [R],
                                                                                     Cluster Explosion [P], Moloch, Batariel [R], Mark of the Keeper, Deepcoil Worm
                                                                     Comet_Catcher_FullCard.webpNox_Carrier_FullCard.webpWrathgazer_FullCard.webpThunder_Wagon_FullCard.webpVolcano_FullCard.webp
                                                                     Cluster_Explosion_FullCard.webpMoloch_FullCard.webpBatariel_FullCard.webpMark_of_the_Keeper_FullCard.webpDeepcoil_Worm_FullCard.webp

Stamp Ranking:
You can only win one of them.
   Split 1: Mountaineer     |      Split 2: Firedancer       | Split 3: Primeval Watcher 
Mountaineer_FullCard.webp   Firedancer_FullCard.webp  Primeval_Watcher_FullCard.webp

Random Draw:
For every 10 Players in the event, there will be 5 General Boosters in the random draw.
So 10 Player = 5 Boosters, 20 Players =10 Boosters, etc.
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And there are also cards in the random draw for all players:
Soulstone_FullCard.webpSoulstone_FullCard.webpFountain_of_Rebirth_FullCard.webpFountain_of_Rebirth_FullCard.webpFleshbender_FullCard.webpFleshbender_FullCard.webp
Frontier_Keep_FullCard.webpFrontier_Keep_FullCard.webpFrontier_Keep_FullCard.webpFrontier_Keep_FullCard.webpHealing_Gardens_FullCard.webpThe_Incredible_Mo_FullCard.webpThe_Incredible_Mo_FullCard.webp
Infernal_Machine_FullCard.webpInfernal_Machine_FullCard.webpInfernal_Machine_FullCard.webpInfernal_Machine_FullCard.webpWheel_of_Gifts_FullCard.webpWheel_of_Gifts_FullCard.webpWheel_of_Gifts_FullCard.webp
Oracle_Mask_FullCard.webpOracle_Mask_FullCard.webpOracle_Mask_FullCard.webpOracle_Mask_FullCard.webpLost_Disruptor_FullCard.webpLost_Disruptor_FullCard.webpLost_Disruptor_FullCard.webp

 

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Big thank you to:

SR-Team                 For the all Boosters
@Metagross31    For planning and feedback
@Bini Inibitor      For map-testing
@bergerb           For helping with some maps scripts
Anonymous 1        Mana Wing (Promo)
Anonymous 2        Construct (Promo), Avatar of Frost, Shadow Worm, Nether Warp [G], Church of Negation,
                               Comet Catcher, Nox Carrier [P], Wrathgazer, Thunder Wagon [B], Volcano [R], Cluster Explosion [P], Moloch
Anonymous 3        Forest Elder [G], Razorleaf, Firedancer, Deepcoil Worm, Batariel [R], Mark of the Keeper
Me 🙂                   Lyrish Knight (Promo), Mine, Mountaineer, Primeval Watcher, "Random-Draw-Cards"

 

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I hope you will have a lot of fun with this challenge and realize how strong the buildings that you use every day are 😊
BOT is not an official event, so I´m very careful to all who give it a try and who helped out behind the scenes with their time or prizes.

If you want to host your own event, connect with the event organizer: @Metagross31

See you in the forge fellow Skylords
Ultralord 🎩

 

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FAQ:

Spoiler

1. What are the major changed compared to the original Oracle map?
- The amount of brim stone was change from 4 to 8
- The position of the brimstone is now fixed not random
- The position of the brimstone was changed
- The ritual before the boss fight was removed
- The fire tribes have been removed
- The brimstone-wagons are going to the statue as soon as you free them. (no need for an escort)
- The starting Power was incest 

 

 

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  • Ultralord changed the title to Battle of Tactics #8: Maximum Support - Until 13.04.2025 23:59 CET
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So what is the plan? planting motk over the entire map and picking everything except for the yellow mo? Trying to get to t3 and then cheating energy and planting even more using enlightenment? I made the mistake of killing one camp too early in my last attempt. And therefore calling in the flyers. I guess it's possible. But I won't try it again, as it's not that much fun to watch archers shooting forever vs t3 units. You can also try to trap some units to prevent future spawns. But please do tell me if someone can beat this map using all modifiers. And please tell, if someone can beat it without motk while still having > 900 points.

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10 hours ago, shaulani said:

So what is the plan? planting motk over the entire map and picking everything except for the yellow mo? Trying to get to t3 and then cheating energy and planting even more using enlightenment? I made the mistake of killing one camp too early in my last attempt. And therefore calling in the flyers. I guess it's possible. But I won't try it again, as it's not that much fun to watch archers shooting forever vs t3 units. You can also try to trap some units to prevent future spawns. But please do tell me if someone can beat this map using all modifiers. And please tell, if someone can beat it without motk while still having > 900 points.

Interesting strategy with motk 🙂
But yeah Bound energy could be a problem

For the "But please do tell me if someone can beat this map using all modifiers" You can always check the ranking on the website, and so fare we have 3 people:
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In 15 minutes? With all upgrades?

I'm not sure if I can clear the first camp within that time when starting with nature. Well, shadow worm probably didn't kill the camps and cheesed it in some way. Will the winning replay be on youtube after the competition?

After seeing the time and points, my guess it that he started with fire. Still impressive.

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14 hours ago, shaulani said:

Will the winning replay be on youtube after the competition?

The winning replays will be shown on stream, to quote from the main post:

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Winner Stream:  18.04.2025 19:00 CET via my Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/ultralord_t1421)

 

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  • Ultralord changed the title to Battle of Tactics #8: Maximum Support - Until 13.04.2025 23:59 CEST
16 hours ago, shaulani said:

In 15 minutes? With all upgrades?

I'm not sure if I can clear the first camp within that time when starting with nature. Well, shadow worm probably didn't kill the camps and cheesed it in some way. Will the winning replay be on youtube after the competition?

After seeing the time and points, my guess it that he started with fire. Still impressive.

I can assure you that a nature start with 1000 points is perfectly fine and pretty fast to!

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6 hours ago, Metagross31 said:

The winning replays will be shown on stream, to quote from the main post:

 

Yeah, I've read that. But unfortunately, I don't have time at 7pm.

 

4 hours ago, Ziggeeh said:

I can assure you that a nature start with 1000 points is perfectly fine and pretty fast to!

I've lost 2-3 Windweavers while backing them up with 3-5 shamans just by fighting 2 towers. CC doesn't work due to yellow mo. Though I haven't tried hurricane. These cannon guys kill 1-2 windweavers with their special too. (though you might avoid fighting them with windweavers if you are really this fast.)

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2 hours ago, shaulani said:

Yeah, I've read that. But unfortunately, I don't have time at 7pm.

 

I've lost 2-3 Windweavers while backing them up with 3-5 shamans just by fighting 2 towers. CC doesn't work due to yellow mo. Though I haven't tried hurricane. These cannon guys kill 1-2 windweavers with their special too. (though you might avoid fighting them with windweavers if you are really this fast.)

I did a 1000 Point run in todays Stream. Not fast or pretty, but possible 🙂
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2420378006?t=0h22m56s

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39 minutes ago, Ultralord said:

I did a 1000 Point run in todays Stream. Not fast or pretty, but possible 🙂
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2420378006?t=0h22m56s

Thanks, I'll have a look. That moment when you suidiced 4 archers into the tower.. quite funny=).

Are you playing on advanced or standard? I don't see any of the cannon guys by minute 11. Sadly, I didn't keep my replay, so I can't check when the first ones attacked me. It felt way earlier.

 

.. watching a little bit further, I don't think you are actually playing on expert.

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Yeah what RadicalX said:

On 1/16/2025 at 8:12 PM, Ultralord said:

Map:                   Community map: "Battle of Tactics 8" (copy of Oracle)
Difficulty:            Advanced
Goal:                   Finish the map with the most points and as fast as possible


You can play on EXP but my website will not except that replay 😉
So dont make it harder as it already is hehe.

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Wouldn't it be more interesting to actually choose the debuffs? Right now, if you want to win, you have to pick everything, which is quite tedious in the first minute. I'm not saying change the rules during a competition. But now, we do know already what debuffs will be chosen for the winning run, as even someone completing the map within 2 minutes and 990 points wouldn't be first place.

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8 hours ago, shaulani said:

Wouldn't it be more interesting to actually choose the debuffs? Right now, if you want to win, you have to pick everything, which is quite tedious in the first minute. I'm not saying change the rules during a competition. But now, we do know already what debuffs will be chosen for the winning run, as even someone completing the map within 2 minutes and 990 points wouldn't be first place.

well thats the problem with a point based system i guess.
You could create some crazy math to combine Points and Playtime, but that would need extended testing to be fair.

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10 hours ago, Ultralord said:

well thats the problem with a point based system i guess.
You could create some crazy math to combine Points and Playtime, but that would need extended testing to be fair.

Just calculate (total time in seconds) / (500 + chosen points). Lowest result wins. It's not rocket science. To make it more interesting, you could even add an additional factor for difficulty.

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