anonyme0273 677 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 (edited) Yeah thats true https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGY1CPBhqw4 here is a video of me playing with that deck... (im saroosh)Are you really? Well... all respect, great player you are! Good job man, defending those walls 9:57! Edited August 26, 2015 by anonyme0273 Link to post Share on other sites
Nachtalb 4 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 (edited) Well i think the Tier 2 is mostly about shielded drakes and scythefiends.( units with string attack but not the besteht defence). And also about gold defending with Kobold and glaciershield. and of course a little crowd control with coldsnap. If you want to attack at different Bades with Swift units, i think fire nature would be better...Against some Factions Shield-Drakes/Shield-Fiends are useless. They are very strong vs pure fire and good vs Fire/Nature but useless vs Frost for example. So the T2 is NOT only about shielded units. It depends very much on the deck of your enemy. What IS important for Fire/Frost is a strong and long T1, to build up the enrgy flow for the expensive Units to keep constant pressure on the enemy in t2. If you play with mounty, the T2 is all about mounty, but if you play without you need to know how you have to fight different decks. Beware Lost Souls and Stonekin Mass-Unit-Tactics.. both matchups are Autoloose in T2 if you have no advantage from T1 and dont keep the pressure on your enemy.Attacking different Bases is crucial with fire/frost in many matchups. Of course Fire/Nature may be BETTER for it, still with rageclaws it is possible and often important to attack on more than one point during T2. All i say is for 1vs1, not 2vs2 where fire/frost decks often differ a lot... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuTHROLtLY0 Here is a replay of me vs Pure frost, where u can see that T2 is all about Rageclaws + Drakes in this Matchup... the replay is not realy good, don't ask me why pizzapuul didn't use any frostmage at all and i made a lot of crude decisions during t2 as well. (and never mind Bruce Lees commentary here, he is talking a bit like a sleeping pill and messed up the Speech-Tracks on one point and didnt get one of the most interesting scenes of the match, nonetheless he did ok). This replay is pre-stormsinger buff, that's why i dont use her. Nevertheless, there are many matchups and situations where shield drake is NOT viable or efficient, same goes for shield-scythe... it is strong but it is not overall OP gamebreaking or something. Shielddrake is 180 Power... and you need a reliable ground unit to make it usefull in adition... Edited August 26, 2015 by Nachtalb Link to post Share on other sites
Lyrish 0 Posted August 27, 2015 Author Share Posted August 27, 2015 Ah i know you from farrock! Great to See so many gold players again Link to post Share on other sites
kestas3 2 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 brannoc is always a good adition to t3 Link to post Share on other sites
xHighTech 39 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 brannoc is always a good adition to t3Only usefull in decks with a nature splash Link to post Share on other sites
RadicalX 558 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Only usefull in decks with a nature splash Brannoc was actually decent in Fire/Frost if you chose to play the timeless/silverwind/tremor T3. Since Fire Frost has no XL counter Brannoc would cover up a huge weakness (Tremor will still work as your main basenuke because Fire Frost doesn't have the best support for Brannoc). If you play Giant Slayer T3 he is not really strong.Aside from that I agree Brannoc was only really useful with good support, I played him pretty much only in Fire Nature, since i don't see a reason to run a XL in shadow nature, because LW/Unholy power were pretty useless here, pure Nature had Mo & Stonekin has on of the strongest XL nukes in T3. Link to post Share on other sites
Hirooo 41 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Against some Factions Shield-Drakes/Shield-Fiends are useless. They are very strong vs pure fire and good vs Fire/Nature but useless vs Frost for example. So the T2 is NOT only about shielded units. It depends very much on the deck of your enemy. What IS important for Fire/Frost is a strong and long T1, to build up the enrgy flow for the expensive Units to keep constant pressure on the enemy in t2. If you play with mounty, the T2 is all about mounty, but if you play without you need to know how you have to fight different decks. Beware Lost Souls and Stonekin Mass-Unit-Tactics.. both matchups are Autoloose in T2 if you have no advantage from T1 and dont keep the pressure on your enemy.I disagree with shielded units ever being useless in any matchup of fire frost.The early t2 is often the best timing for shielded drake and scythfiends to get valuable trades against s/f or stonekin.Mounti gives good scaling with longer t1s but generally a not super long t1 benefits fire frost more although a short one might end up being an autolose against certain match ups since basecompositions tend to be a bit more costly compared to other decks. Playing against pure Frost is great with rageclaws but shielded drakes work fine on every map that allows to position against gravity surge. Link to post Share on other sites
xHighTech 39 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Brannoc was actually decent in Fire/Frost if you chose to play the timeless/silverwind/tremor T3.Tremor lamer !! Link to post Share on other sites
Hjoartendk 0 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I would say you should have a really good 1 orb so you can fight and win those fights so i would say go 5 1 orb units and then build you deck from there with some medium and xl counters GL Link to post Share on other sites
IDonZalog 2 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Hello guys,I am currently playing a fire / frost deck and need your help. I still have one slot free. I know it's not the strongest fraction but I love the deck; ). I play these cards:T1: Scavenger, Sunstriders, Thugs, Sunderer, Firesworn, Eruption T2: Skyfire Drake, Lava Field, Ravage, Scythe Fiends, Kobold Trick, Glacier Shell, Storm Singer, Frost Bite, Frost Sorceress, Coldsnap, Rageclaws T3: Sun Reaver, Giant SlayerI would possibly still Gladiatrix or Shield Building? What would be better? Best regards IDonZalog Link to post Share on other sites
Eirias 379 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 12 hours ago, IDonZalog said: Hello guys,I am currently playing a fire / frost deck and need your help. I still have one slot free. I know it's not the strongest fraction but I love the deck; ). I play these cards:T1: Scavenger, Sunstriders, Thugs, Sunderer, Firesworn, Eruption T2: Skyfire Drake, Lava Field, Ravage, Scythe Fiends, Kobold Trick, Glacier Shell, Storm Singer, Frost Bite, Frost Sorceress, Coldsnap, Rageclaws T3: Sun Reaver, Giant SlayerI would possibly still Gladiatrix or Shield Building? What would be better? Best regards IDonZalog probably storm singer actually? But tbh timeless one, silverwind, and tremors are probably a better t3. Link to post Share on other sites
IDonZalog 2 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 9 hours ago, Eirias said: probably storm singer actually? But tbh timeless one, silverwind, and tremors are probably a better t3. I have Storm singer in my deck. Why is the T3 better? Can you explain why? Thank you for an answer; ) Regards IDonZalg Link to post Share on other sites
Eirias 379 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 7 hours ago, IDonZalog said: I have Storm singer in my deck. Why is the T3 better? Can you explain why? Thank you for an answer; ) Regards IDonZalg Oh,sorry, must have missed it. Giant slayers are (possibly) the best 1-card t3, because they're fast, can spread out over many places, and rush quickly. They can also easily be supported by spells, but that's a bit more useful in fire-nature than fire frost. GS are not so good at high power levels though. However, timeless one is a super strong card because of its defensive abilities. That lets you last into very high power levels. Silverwind lancers are similar to giant slayers, but with more health and lower damage. Tremors are good for the high dps. Sun reaver < Virtuoso << tremor Silverwind lancers < giant slayers (barely) Plus the benefit of timeless one. Link to post Share on other sites
IDonZalog 2 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 19 hours ago, Eirias said: Oh,sorry, must have missed it. Giant slayers are (possibly) the best 1-card t3, because they're fast, can spread out over many places, and rush quickly. They can also easily be supported by spells, but that's a bit more useful in fire-nature than fire frost. GS are not so good at high power levels though. However, timeless one is a super strong card because of its defensive abilities. That lets you last into very high power levels. Silverwind lancers are similar to giant slayers, but with more health and lower damage. Tremors are good for the high dps. Sun reaver < Virtuoso << tremor Silverwind lancers < giant slayers (barely) Plus the benefit of timeless one. Hey, thank you for the answer ; ) . I will try it. regards IDonZalog Link to post Share on other sites
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