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  1. More replays will be shared in the next days and the next upcoming balance changes will bring even more movement into the rankings. I still will track times here until its not any longer possible to determine the impact on current times in a logical way. There will be a certain point where we will probably switch to ingame rankings or season based rankings depending on the implemented balance changes. Be sure - a lot of surprises will be unpacked in the next time ;-).

    Stay tuned!

     

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  2. 10 hours ago, shroomion said:

    I know it is a lot of work and the time and ranking and everything is very important to you, but damn...this post does not show you in a very good light tbh.

    Its supposed to be like this from my side. We had this kind of discussions several times, over and over again - its ok up to a certain point - but enough is enough. The  post i was referring to was far away from reality and stated a lot of things that are not true and simply just wrong for speedrunning. I am here to clarify these points - but also my patience is limited if its just unobjective hate against speedrunners that stick with the game for years and developed hundred of different strategies by investing a lot of time in it.

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  3. On 2/17/2021 at 4:29 PM, Buddelmuddel said:

    I would fix the the decomposer bug, so that it only targets your own units.

     

    It would bring a little more skill into speedrunning. Maybe even add that every position has 4 orbs that they can take, and none of the other positions can take them. Additionally make ami monument and enlightment t4.

     

    When you are a new player you do think that a good time is associated with good players, but 85% of the needed time is determined from your deck, your strategy and AI understanding. Basically the last minute decides how well a team has excecuted a map, and not if they were 5 or 10 minutes faster. Although to understand the AI and play around it, does take a little skill.

     

    If the campaings would be played properly there would be a little more diversity in ranks, and it would be more incentive to play the maps, cause not everyone could do them easily. Its a little sad, when 1 players who knows what he is doing achieves a better time, then when 4 people know what they are doing, but they play the game instead of feeding.

    But then again, if it would be more known that good times do not have to be associated with good players, then it wouldn`t matter in the end. Although it would be nice if you play a map normally in a good way, people could see that you played it well. Maybe there could be 2 rankings, one with every bug abuse possible. And one where you play the map in the casual way, just efficient.

     

    Additionally I would add maybe 200 more energy on camapign maps, so that the start isnt so dang slow.

    Buddel this post proofs you have no real clue about top speedrunning. There is more than enough skill in speedrunning. Just for your information - not every map is braindead like bad harvest. Even if you dont believe it - to get top times every second counts from the beginning and every step is teamplay and completely coordinated - there are a lot of details even for the parts of feeding. You never participated in any real speedruns (except some battleground) so you cant even rate the current speedrun mechanics and level of gameplay of it.

    For you to summarize the important points:

    -speedruns using sometimes feeding but just with feeding you dont will get a top time in the rankings - feeding is one part of the tactic but not more

    -the good times are associated with good players --> try to beat my one player all-time records --> if you are done with it tell me again that i am not a good player (btw no decomposer is used here) --> for top times you need a team consisting of good players --> there is much more than just feeding

    -even without amii, decomposer and enlightment the expert maps are quite simple --> the same players would still dominate the rankings --> just check the latest pve community challenges that were without this cards

    -all of our speedruns are more than efficient --> we are always at the energy limit --> top times are not possible without beeing efficient from  the first minute of the game

    -using amii, englightment, decomposer is not a bug --> typcial sentence that comes from players that want to join the discussion but have no clue --> just typical hating against speedruners

    -all of our and also other speedruns are played quite well --> not appreciating the performance of others is really nice from you ;-)

    -in pve is quite typical that a good strategy will lead to the best times and that includes the cards you are using and understanding of the map--> a typcial characteristic of good player is to have the capability to regognize such details and create a tactic with the right cards out of it

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  4. On 1/29/2021 at 10:39 PM, Dallarian said:

    Nightmare Shard: 10:20.2 @Ufonek January 2021 - solo

    Someone got your time Pritstift by 1.5s.

    Can I get some insight into speedrunning please? What would happen if all rankings were erased on release day? Are you able to repeat best times by doing exact order of actions, or is it "the most lucky time" from 1000 attemps, because implementation is too difficult to be perfect?

    Yes Sir - its fixed 10.04.6 ;)

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  5. On 1/21/2021 at 11:59 AM, Rankerz said:

    So usually there are 2 SoW built which lets you permanently activate the ability as like a passive bonus

    The only thing is, you have to click on it every 30 seconds even in the middle of the fight

    It is even more harder to notice when for example Wheel of Gifts are active, and the global icon is not showing

    I think this method is really outdated and would not change much about the card usage

    Let me know your thoughts on this

     

    Not required - i agree with the posts that the community already posted in this direction.

  6. 14 hours ago, Dallarian said:

    Are you able to repeat best times by doing exact order of actions

    We can reproduce every time and may also can be faster. Its just the question of how much time you want to invest because of the points Treim mentioned above. In general we have reached a high lvl of speedrun-gameplay with our team and tactics - so times close to existing all-time records can be done quite fast ;-).

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  7. 2 hours ago, Darcurse said:


    That speedrunners use every tactic available is normal, the basic issue here has less do to with the relationship of BF and Speedrunning and more with how bugged out the game is to force ppl to rely heavily on abusing uninteded situations.
     

    Its interesting to see how the normal player thinks that a speedrun is working. To explain it a bit - to beat the map fast we just do what is defined in the scripts of the maps. So if there is just the goal kill the final boss we will try to find a way to kill the final boss fast - this has nothing to do with bugs. The speedruns we are doing are no comparison to speedruns of other games that really using crazy glitches and bugs...For sure there are some details for every map that can help you - may call it bugs if you want - but still with these things you will not able to finish the map and speedrun alone.

     

    Also i want to clean up another point. Speedrunning on competitive level is maximum teamplay - we are just able to reach such good times because we plan every small detail - and yes e.g. also the right feed  in the right moment is a detail  for this- and no there are not just feeders - most time this players have still important roles even if they are just T1-T3. Witthout voice we would have no chance to perform on top-level- because a lot of details have to communicated or timed in the right moment.

     

    Like Ladadoos pointet out - bad harvest is ane extrem example that now seems to be really easy. But you have to think of that some players invested hours to develop this tactics. Thanks to some streamers after the reset the bad harvest speedrun tactic is now well known - i never supported this because i did know this will happen. Another fact is about the exp and gold system of Skylords Reborn itself. You are forced to grind the maps for exp, gold and upgrades. So if there is way to play a map in below 3 min and you  get exp, gold and also upgrades of this map it seems reasonable that a lot of players want to do this.

     

    If you are willing to play competitive speedruns you have to use some special tactics to be on top. If you are not speedrunning on this level nobody is forcing you to play with decomposer. Imagine its also possible to speedrun without decomposer or batariel and such stuff - no problem if you know how the map works.


  8. Attention: This list is no longer maintained but serves as an archive.
    The new post can be found here!

     

    Hello Speedrun Community,

    starting from January 2019 MephistoRoss kept track of the fastest speedrun times for each map. Some month ago he stopped to update the rankings and after this point the rankings were just rarely updated by members of the dev-team. Therefore i got the official approval to create a new topic with the same content that  will be updated by myself.

    All matches were played on the highest difficulty (expert).
    The Battleground maps are different each month.

    All-time speedrun rankings:

    1-Player Maps:

    Battleground (10):	11:04.0	Mocaak			January 2022
    Battleground (9): 	08:35.2 RadicalX		June 2022
    Behind Enemy Lines:	09:27.7	RadicalX		May 2022
    Defending Hope:		20:35.5	Multiple players	---
    Encounters w. Twilight: 10:47.5 Pritstift 		April 2021
    Introduction:		12:49.3 Mocaak         		February 2022
    Mo:			09:14.5	Donaar			May 2022
    Ocean:			14:47.5	Pritstift		September 2022
    Oracle:			15:30.1	Pritstift		December 2021
    Siege of Hope:		21:56.2	Multiple Players	---
    The Soultree:		09:19.0 Pritstift		October 2021
    The Treasure Fleet:	14:47.8	Trando			June 2022
    

     

    2-Player Maps:

    Duo:

    Battleground (10):	10:47.8 Damo + Hirooo 		August 2022
    Battleground (9): 	08.14.5 Hirooo + RadicalX	January 2022
    Convoy:			05:29.2	LEBOVIN + Pritstift	January 2022
    Crusade:		09:41.2	Multiple teams		---
    Nightmare Shard:	07:01.0	LEBOVIN + Pritstift	January 2022
    Nightmare's End:	15:59.5	LEBOVIN + Pritstift	January 2022
    Slave Master:		08:24.1	Pritstift + Treim	September 2021
    Sunbridge:		08:22.6	Pritstift + Treim	March 2021
    The Insane God:		04:04.0	LEBOVIN + Pritstift	January 2022

    Solo:

    Battleground (10): 	14:35.8 RadicalX		August 2022
    Convoy:			06:47.8	Pritstift		February 2021
    Crusade:		09:44.2	Asj			April 2021
    Nightmare Shard:	09:50.5	Pritstift		February 2021
    Nightmare's End:	20:48.1 Pritstift		July 2022
    Slavemaster:		13:59.8	Pritstift 		September 2021
    Sunbrigde:		11:33.4	Donaar			March 2022
    The Insane God:		07:57.4	Donaar			March 2022

     

    4-Player Maps:

    Quartet:

    Battleground (10):	08:23.2	BlueBerryBoy + Damo + Hirooo + Nyakyua		October 2021
    Battleground (9):	06:55.9	arabika + Damo + Hirooo + Nyakyua		May 2022
    Bad Harvest:		01:56.5 LEBOVIN + Pritstift + Treim + Wanky		December 2021
    Blight:			08:18.1	arabika + Donaar + Gam3over + Hirooo		May 2022
    Empire:			11:43.6	LEBOVIN + Pritstift + Treim + Wanky	  	July 2021
    King of the Giants:	06:52.0	LEBOVIN + Pritstift + Treim + Wanky	  	January 2021
    Raven's End:		14:42.7	LEBOVIN + Pritstift + Treim + Wanky		June 2021
    The Dwarven Riddle:	04:00.4	LEBOVIN + Pritstift + Treim + Wanky		February 2022
    The Guns of Lyr:        02:09.7 LEBOVIN + Pritstift + Treim + Wanky		March 2021
    Titans:			15:59.5 LEBOVIN + Pritstift + Wanky	  		May 2020

    Trio:

    Battleground (10):	10:33.1 Damo + Hirooo + Nyakyua				September 2022
    Bad Harvest:		02:33.4 DerNewYork + LEBOVIN + Wanky			March 2021
    Blight:			11:59.2	LEBOVIN + Pritstift + Treim			June 2020
    Empire:			12:37.9	LEBOVIN + Pritstift + Wanky			August 2021
    King of the Giants:	07:36.7 LEBOVIN + Pritstift + Wanky			April 2020
    Raven's End:		17:04.0	LEBOVIN + Treim	+ Wanky				May 2021
    The Dwarven Riddle:	05:12.4 LEBOVIN + Treim	+ Wanky				January 2022
    The Guns of Lyr:	02:41.8 LEBOVIN + Pritstift + Wanky			July 2020
    Titans:			15:59.5 LEBOVIN + Pritstift + Wanky			May 2020

    Duo:

    Battleground (10):	11:45.4 arabika + BlueBerryBoy				September 2022
    Bad Harvest:		04:34.9 LEBOVIN + Pritstift				March 2021
    Blight:			13:21.1	LEBOVIN + Pritstift				October 2020
    Empire:			14:16.0 LEBOVIN + Wanky					July 2021
    King of the Giants:	08:46.9 LEBOVIN + Pritstift				November 2020
    Raven's End:		18:40.6	LEBOVIN + Wanky					April 2021
    The Dwarven Riddle:	07:47.5	LEBOVIN + Pritstift				January 2022
    The Guns of Lyr:	03:38.5 LEBOVIN + Wanky					August 2020
    Titans:			16:02.8 LEBOVIN + Pritstift				April 2020

    Solo:

    Battleground (10):	15:20.8 Mocaak						May 2022
    Bad Harvest:		15:56.8 LEBOVIN						June 2021
    Blight:			22:37.3	Pritstift					October 2020
    Empire:			00:00.0 ---						---
    King of the Giants:	12:32.2 LEBOVIN						April 2021
    Raven's End:		25:42.4	Wanky						May 2022
    The Dwarven Riddle:	12:05.5	Pritstift					June 2021
    The Guns of Lyr:	06:25.0 Wanky						June 2021
    Titans:			16:04.3 Donaar						April 2022

     

    12-Player-Maps

    Ascension:

    12-Player:	12.25.3	DeleriuM + DerNewYork + DieToPlay + Hirooo		January 2021
    			+ LEBOVIN + Luschy + Michielos1 + Pritstift
                		+ Sheepmonster + SylarXXI + Treim + Wanky
    11-Player:	18:40.9	BlueBerryBoy + DeleriuM + DerNewYork + LEBOVIN		January 2021
    			+ Luschy + Mynoduesp + Pritstift + Sheepmonster
                		+ SylarXXI + Treim + Wanky
    10-Player:	22:24.4	Anske + Careless + Keksmonsta + Kendrikson		June 2021
    			+ Medicus + Melfyce + Neros + Patric511
                		+ TREX + Zortak
    9-Player:	25:55.0	(See 5-Player)						January 2021
    8-Player:	25:55.0	(See 5-Player)						January 2021
    7-Player:	25:55.0	(See 5-Player)						January 2021
    6-Player:	25:55.0	(See 5-Player)						January 2021
    5-Player:	25:55.0	DerNewYork + LEBOVIN + Pritstift + Treim + Wanky	January 2021
    4-Player:	29:09.1	LEBOVIN + Pritstift + Treim + Wanky			November 2020
    3-Player:	00:00.0	---							---

    Passage to Darkness:

    12-Player:	03:48.7	Damo + DeleriuM + Emmaerzeh + Hirooo			November 2020
    			+ LEBOVIN + Luschy + Mynoduesp + Pritstift
                		+ Sheepmonster + SylarXXI + Treim + Wanky
    11-Player:	11:15.1	(See 8-Player)						May 2022
    10-Player:	11:15.1	(See 8-Player)						May 2022
    9-Player:	11:15.1	(See 8-Player)						May 2022
    8-Player:	11:15.1	Chili-Kong-Arne + Gandalf444 + Hittimo + Metagross31 	May 2022
    			+ The_Headbanger + Trando + Wanky + XxBlueFirexX
    7-Player:	12:47.5	(See 5-Player)						January 2022
    6-Player:	12:47.5	(See 5-Player)						January 2022
    5-Player:	12.47.5	arabika + ArthurKnight + Donaar + Dutchy		January 2022
    			+ Keksmonsta
    4-Player:	15:11.8	(See 3-Player)						August 2020
    3-Player:	15:11.8	LEBOVIN + Treim + Wanky					August 2020

     

    Selected Community Maps:

    In June 2022, shortly before the ranking reset, records for Community Maps began to be tracked in another post. The records collected until then are now also archived below:

    1-Player maps
    
    Icedessert:		   09:56.8 Metagross31					July 2022
    King's Ridge v.0.8:	   15:56.2 Donaar					September 2022
    Nyxia:			   05:47.8 Donaar					August 2022
    Rogans Schatz:		   22:02.0 Donaar					September 2022
    Warrior on the mountains:  13:46.3 Donaar					August 2022
    City of Tears:		   07:34.9 Donaar					August 2022
    
    2-Player maps
    
    Army of Darkness:   	   23:01.6 Donaar + Grak				September 2022
    Simple Land 1:  	   15:10.6 Emmaerzeh + Metagross31			August 2022
    Simple Land 2:  	   23:03.7 D4rkm4tt3r_Dark + Metagross31		August 2022
    Simple Land 3:   	   21:04.9 D4rkm4tt3r_Dark + Metagross31 		August 2022
    
    4-Player maps
    
    Twisted Legends - 1.00:    28:59.5 Kapo + Metagross31 + Talgat			August 2022

     

    To get started:

    Here is the old post: https://forum.skylords.eu/index.php?/topic/965-all-time-fastest-speedrun-rankings/

    Here are several speedrun replays on youtube: http://forum.skylords.eu/index.php?/topic/557-speedrun-links/

    Introduction how to master maps on expert mode: https://forum.skylords.eu/index.php?/topic/7266-expert-campaign-missions-briefing-among-the-old-gods-achievement/

    RPVE-Speedrun Guide: https://forum.skylords.eu/index.php?/topic/752-treims-battlegroundrpve-speedrun-guide/&tab=comments

    RPVE-Solo-Speedrun archive: https://forum.skylords.eu/index.php?/topic/6281-treims-motm-solo-speedrun-archive/

    Skylords Reborn-Speedrun-Community: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRiLm3stSOWHVIH2lHEOpoQ

    Channel of RadicalX which also includes some speedruns: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3rZG7pzo3GYO0wR3Jx9F7w/videos

     

    Back in the old days of battleforge:

    Spoiler

     

    Attached you can see the speedrun-rankings close to the end of battleforge 2013. If you compare the old times vs. the current times you can see which crazy improvements were possible in the last 2 years. Also we increased the pool of tracked times significantly.

     

     

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    Also there was a 2nd ranking which was representing the total all-time ranking. Each month you got some points for every map depending on the placement you had. This ranking was representing the result for a lot of month playing speedruns and staying most time within the Top10 for a lot of maps.  Shown results should be around January 2013.

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  9. 16 minutes ago, Rankerz said:

    Alright, whatever floats your boat.

    If you think 99% players are that bad that cannot even execute the strategy, there is really no reason to fear the competition of your time

    I mean most of us happy even to clear an expert map 

    Maybe you should use your 'super knowledge' to help the small community to improve other than showing us cool numbers as ego boost or pee pee measure contest

    But hey, if it makes you happy to keep it as secret of 4 people its on you

     

     

     

    I dont know what is wrong with guys like you - i think guys like you are just pissed of that you dont have good mates to play with and develop own speedrun-tactics. All you can is attack us here and state that we are fearing the competition - these are empty words that just try to force a senceless discussion here. And just for your information - there are not just 4 speedruners - our team is just the most active one and we had nice competition in the last months with other teams.

    I hope there is another pve community challenge - you can take part and show us how good you are ;-). Replays will be also shared after.

    For players that are talk in a normal way with us we also offering support for pve expert maps - for players like you am not even willing to give an answer.

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  10. 3 hours ago, Rankerz said:

    Maybe I miss something, but what is the point of these ranking without replays ?

    I mean its great showing off a time like that ,congratz but the community wont benefit anything from it

    Everything is kept as a secret when asking around, nothing to learn from

    There is no actual reward attached to the ranks like BFP or money, so i ask why ?

    Kind of selfish imo

     

     

    I am totally bored to answer this again and again - if you would invest a bit of your time you could have checked the pages here before where this was discussed several times - so kind of selfish from your side to attack us here again without checking evten what was written here before. 

    We have no contract or obligations to show our tactis to the community - there are rankings and we try to run for the best time because this our spirit! There are some teams and also sometimes some new that are willing to develop own and unique tactics. 

    Guys like you come here and want to have everything for free - you come here with even no speedrun experience and try to force us to show our replays/tactics we have developed with much work. 

    The result of sharing our replays and powerful tactics are braindead copy runs that in most cases are wrong played because the players that copy are even dont understand what is going on. I saw so much bad things in streams for skylords reborn the last weeks - in the streams they called it speedrun but it was just cheap, silly and braindead copy play - just used to farm gold and exp but no real speedrun spirit behind it. Beeing Overlord in PVE but playing still like a beginner. I will not support this. 

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  11. 13 hours ago, Mynoduesp said:

    @LEBOVIN When you make videos for the next Community Challenge I recommend to talk to the top guys first and ask them what the difficulties were and how they solved them. On a random map like Twilight Shard there are choices made which are not apparent in a single playthrough. As example there's a random change a Twilight Bug heads to the shard at around 1:50. Ignoring the bug will result in a loss if the walls are not defended, that's why two nomades are taking the top route in my playthrough. I think sidenotes like these would add something extra to the replay commentary which already includes sidenotes for the map in general.

    I like the videos in general though.

    I think Lebo mentioned more than enough details of all the 3 runs that casual players and non-speedruners are able to catch during the video. You can write a seperate guide for your run and upload it here.;) Better be happy that somebody like Lebo invests his time to share and comment replays on a high lvl :hype: No need to recommend him sth. here - the map itself has to much random elements. Thx to Lebo! 

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