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More replays will be shared in the next days and the next upcoming balance changes will bring even more movement into the rankings. I still will track times here until its not any longer possible to determine the impact on current times in a logical way. There will be a certain point where we will probably switch to ingame rankings or season based rankings depending on the implemented balance changes. Be sure - a lot of surprises will be unpacked in the next time ;-).
Stay tuned!
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10 hours ago, shroomion said:
I know it is a lot of work and the time and ranking and everything is very important to you, but damn...this post does not show you in a very good light tbh.
Its supposed to be like this from my side. We had this kind of discussions several times, over and over again - its ok up to a certain point - but enough is enough. The post i was referring to was far away from reality and stated a lot of things that are not true and simply just wrong for speedrunning. I am here to clarify these points - but also my patience is limited if its just unobjective hate against speedrunners that stick with the game for years and developed hundred of different strategies by investing a lot of time in it.
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On 2/17/2021 at 4:29 PM, Buddelmuddel said:
I would fix the the decomposer bug, so that it only targets your own units.
It would bring a little more skill into speedrunning. Maybe even add that every position has 4 orbs that they can take, and none of the other positions can take them. Additionally make ami monument and enlightment t4.
When you are a new player you do think that a good time is associated with good players, but 85% of the needed time is determined from your deck, your strategy and AI understanding. Basically the last minute decides how well a team has excecuted a map, and not if they were 5 or 10 minutes faster. Although to understand the AI and play around it, does take a little skill.
If the campaings would be played properly there would be a little more diversity in ranks, and it would be more incentive to play the maps, cause not everyone could do them easily. Its a little sad, when 1 players who knows what he is doing achieves a better time, then when 4 people know what they are doing, but they play the game instead of feeding.
But then again, if it would be more known that good times do not have to be associated with good players, then it wouldn`t matter in the end. Although it would be nice if you play a map normally in a good way, people could see that you played it well. Maybe there could be 2 rankings, one with every bug abuse possible. And one where you play the map in the casual way, just efficient.
Additionally I would add maybe 200 more energy on camapign maps, so that the start isnt so dang slow.
Buddel this post proofs you have no real clue about top speedrunning. There is more than enough skill in speedrunning. Just for your information - not every map is braindead like bad harvest. Even if you dont believe it - to get top times every second counts from the beginning and every step is teamplay and completely coordinated - there are a lot of details even for the parts of feeding. You never participated in any real speedruns (except some battleground) so you cant even rate the current speedrun mechanics and level of gameplay of it.
For you to summarize the important points:
-speedruns using sometimes feeding but just with feeding you dont will get a top time in the rankings - feeding is one part of the tactic but not more
-the good times are associated with good players --> try to beat my one player all-time records --> if you are done with it tell me again that i am not a good player (btw no decomposer is used here) --> for top times you need a team consisting of good players --> there is much more than just feeding
-even without amii, decomposer and enlightment the expert maps are quite simple --> the same players would still dominate the rankings --> just check the latest pve community challenges that were without this cards
-all of our speedruns are more than efficient --> we are always at the energy limit --> top times are not possible without beeing efficient from the first minute of the game
-using amii, englightment, decomposer is not a bug --> typcial sentence that comes from players that want to join the discussion but have no clue --> just typical hating against speedruners
-all of our and also other speedruns are played quite well --> not appreciating the performance of others is really nice from you ;-)
-in pve is quite typical that a good strategy will lead to the best times and that includes the cards you are using and understanding of the map--> a typcial characteristic of good player is to have the capability to regognize such details and create a tactic with the right cards out of it
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On 1/29/2021 at 10:39 PM, Dallarian said:
Nightmare Shard: 10:20.2 @Ufonek January 2021 - solo
Someone got your time Pritstift by 1.5s.
Can I get some insight into speedrunning please? What would happen if all rankings were erased on release day? Are you able to repeat best times by doing exact order of actions, or is it "the most lucky time" from 1000 attemps, because implementation is too difficult to be perfect?Yes Sir - its fixed 10.04.6
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On 1/21/2021 at 11:59 AM, Rankerz said:
So usually there are 2 SoW built which lets you permanently activate the ability as like a passive bonus
The only thing is, you have to click on it every 30 seconds even in the middle of the fight
It is even more harder to notice when for example Wheel of Gifts are active, and the global icon is not showing
I think this method is really outdated and would not change much about the card usage
Let me know your thoughts on this
Not required - i agree with the posts that the community already posted in this direction.
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14 hours ago, Dallarian said:
Are you able to repeat best times by doing exact order of actions
We can reproduce every time and may also can be faster. Its just the question of how much time you want to invest because of the points Treim mentioned above. In general we have reached a high lvl of speedrun-gameplay with our team and tactics - so times close to existing all-time records can be done quite fast ;-).
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2 hours ago, Darcurse said:
That speedrunners use every tactic available is normal, the basic issue here has less do to with the relationship of BF and Speedrunning and more with how bugged out the game is to force ppl to rely heavily on abusing uninteded situations.
Its interesting to see how the normal player thinks that a speedrun is working. To explain it a bit - to beat the map fast we just do what is defined in the scripts of the maps. So if there is just the goal kill the final boss we will try to find a way to kill the final boss fast - this has nothing to do with bugs. The speedruns we are doing are no comparison to speedruns of other games that really using crazy glitches and bugs...For sure there are some details for every map that can help you - may call it bugs if you want - but still with these things you will not able to finish the map and speedrun alone.
Also i want to clean up another point. Speedrunning on competitive level is maximum teamplay - we are just able to reach such good times because we plan every small detail - and yes e.g. also the right feed in the right moment is a detail for this- and no there are not just feeders - most time this players have still important roles even if they are just T1-T3. Witthout voice we would have no chance to perform on top-level- because a lot of details have to communicated or timed in the right moment.
Like Ladadoos pointet out - bad harvest is ane extrem example that now seems to be really easy. But you have to think of that some players invested hours to develop this tactics. Thanks to some streamers after the reset the bad harvest speedrun tactic is now well known - i never supported this because i did know this will happen. Another fact is about the exp and gold system of Skylords Reborn itself. You are forced to grind the maps for exp, gold and upgrades. So if there is way to play a map in below 3 min and you get exp, gold and also upgrades of this map it seems reasonable that a lot of players want to do this.
If you are willing to play competitive speedruns you have to use some special tactics to be on top. If you are not speedrunning on this level nobody is forcing you to play with decomposer. Imagine its also possible to speedrun without decomposer or batariel and such stuff - no problem if you know how the map works.
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Topic now tracked here:
https://forum.skylords.eu/index.php?/topic/7613-all-time-fastest-speedrun-rankings/
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Attention: This list is no longer maintained but serves as an archive.
The new post can be found here!
Hello Speedrun Community,
starting from January 2019 MephistoRoss kept track of the fastest speedrun times for each map. Some month ago he stopped to update the rankings and after this point the rankings were just rarely updated by members of the dev-team. Therefore i got the official approval to create a new topic with the same content that will be updated by myself.
All matches were played on the highest difficulty (expert).
The Battleground maps are different each month.All-time speedrun rankings:
1-Player Maps:
Battleground (10): 11:04.0 Mocaak January 2022 Battleground (9): 08:35.2 RadicalX June 2022 Behind Enemy Lines: 09:27.7 RadicalX May 2022 Defending Hope: 20:35.5 Multiple players --- Encounters w. Twilight: 10:47.5 Pritstift April 2021 Introduction: 12:49.3 Mocaak February 2022 Mo: 09:14.5 Donaar May 2022 Ocean: 14:47.5 Pritstift September 2022 Oracle: 15:30.1 Pritstift December 2021 Siege of Hope: 21:56.2 Multiple Players --- The Soultree: 09:19.0 Pritstift October 2021 The Treasure Fleet: 14:47.8 Trando June 2022
2-Player Maps:
Duo:
Battleground (10): 10:47.8 Damo + Hirooo August 2022 Battleground (9): 08.14.5 Hirooo + RadicalX January 2022 Convoy: 05:29.2 LEBOVIN + Pritstift January 2022 Crusade: 09:41.2 Multiple teams --- Nightmare Shard: 07:01.0 LEBOVIN + Pritstift January 2022 Nightmare's End: 15:59.5 LEBOVIN + Pritstift January 2022 Slave Master: 08:24.1 Pritstift + Treim September 2021 Sunbridge: 08:22.6 Pritstift + Treim March 2021 The Insane God: 04:04.0 LEBOVIN + Pritstift January 2022
Solo:
Battleground (10): 14:35.8 RadicalX August 2022 Convoy: 06:47.8 Pritstift February 2021 Crusade: 09:44.2 Asj April 2021 Nightmare Shard: 09:50.5 Pritstift February 2021 Nightmare's End: 20:48.1 Pritstift July 2022 Slavemaster: 13:59.8 Pritstift September 2021 Sunbrigde: 11:33.4 Donaar March 2022 The Insane God: 07:57.4 Donaar March 2022
4-Player Maps:
Quartet:
Battleground (10): 08:23.2 BlueBerryBoy + Damo + Hirooo + Nyakyua October 2021 Battleground (9): 06:55.9 arabika + Damo + Hirooo + Nyakyua May 2022 Bad Harvest: 01:56.5 LEBOVIN + Pritstift + Treim + Wanky December 2021 Blight: 08:18.1 arabika + Donaar + Gam3over + Hirooo May 2022 Empire: 11:43.6 LEBOVIN + Pritstift + Treim + Wanky July 2021 King of the Giants: 06:52.0 LEBOVIN + Pritstift + Treim + Wanky January 2021 Raven's End: 14:42.7 LEBOVIN + Pritstift + Treim + Wanky June 2021 The Dwarven Riddle: 04:00.4 LEBOVIN + Pritstift + Treim + Wanky February 2022 The Guns of Lyr: 02:09.7 LEBOVIN + Pritstift + Treim + Wanky March 2021 Titans: 15:59.5 LEBOVIN + Pritstift + Wanky May 2020
Trio:
Battleground (10): 10:33.1 Damo + Hirooo + Nyakyua September 2022 Bad Harvest: 02:33.4 DerNewYork + LEBOVIN + Wanky March 2021 Blight: 11:59.2 LEBOVIN + Pritstift + Treim June 2020 Empire: 12:37.9 LEBOVIN + Pritstift + Wanky August 2021 King of the Giants: 07:36.7 LEBOVIN + Pritstift + Wanky April 2020 Raven's End: 17:04.0 LEBOVIN + Treim + Wanky May 2021 The Dwarven Riddle: 05:12.4 LEBOVIN + Treim + Wanky January 2022 The Guns of Lyr: 02:41.8 LEBOVIN + Pritstift + Wanky July 2020 Titans: 15:59.5 LEBOVIN + Pritstift + Wanky May 2020
Duo:
Battleground (10): 11:45.4 arabika + BlueBerryBoy September 2022 Bad Harvest: 04:34.9 LEBOVIN + Pritstift March 2021 Blight: 13:21.1 LEBOVIN + Pritstift October 2020 Empire: 14:16.0 LEBOVIN + Wanky July 2021 King of the Giants: 08:46.9 LEBOVIN + Pritstift November 2020 Raven's End: 18:40.6 LEBOVIN + Wanky April 2021 The Dwarven Riddle: 07:47.5 LEBOVIN + Pritstift January 2022 The Guns of Lyr: 03:38.5 LEBOVIN + Wanky August 2020 Titans: 16:02.8 LEBOVIN + Pritstift April 2020
Solo:
Battleground (10): 15:20.8 Mocaak May 2022 Bad Harvest: 15:56.8 LEBOVIN June 2021 Blight: 22:37.3 Pritstift October 2020 Empire: 00:00.0 --- --- King of the Giants: 12:32.2 LEBOVIN April 2021 Raven's End: 25:42.4 Wanky May 2022 The Dwarven Riddle: 12:05.5 Pritstift June 2021 The Guns of Lyr: 06:25.0 Wanky June 2021 Titans: 16:04.3 Donaar April 2022
12-Player-Maps
Ascension:
12-Player: 12.25.3 DeleriuM + DerNewYork + DieToPlay + Hirooo January 2021 + LEBOVIN + Luschy + Michielos1 + Pritstift + Sheepmonster + SylarXXI + Treim + Wanky 11-Player: 18:40.9 BlueBerryBoy + DeleriuM + DerNewYork + LEBOVIN January 2021 + Luschy + Mynoduesp + Pritstift + Sheepmonster + SylarXXI + Treim + Wanky 10-Player: 22:24.4 Anske + Careless + Keksmonsta + Kendrikson June 2021 + Medicus + Melfyce + Neros + Patric511 + TREX + Zortak 9-Player: 25:55.0 (See 5-Player) January 2021 8-Player: 25:55.0 (See 5-Player) January 2021 7-Player: 25:55.0 (See 5-Player) January 2021 6-Player: 25:55.0 (See 5-Player) January 2021 5-Player: 25:55.0 DerNewYork + LEBOVIN + Pritstift + Treim + Wanky January 2021 4-Player: 29:09.1 LEBOVIN + Pritstift + Treim + Wanky November 2020 3-Player: 00:00.0 --- ---
Passage to Darkness:
12-Player: 03:48.7 Damo + DeleriuM + Emmaerzeh + Hirooo November 2020 + LEBOVIN + Luschy + Mynoduesp + Pritstift + Sheepmonster + SylarXXI + Treim + Wanky 11-Player: 11:15.1 (See 8-Player) May 2022 10-Player: 11:15.1 (See 8-Player) May 2022 9-Player: 11:15.1 (See 8-Player) May 2022 8-Player: 11:15.1 Chili-Kong-Arne + Gandalf444 + Hittimo + Metagross31 May 2022 + The_Headbanger + Trando + Wanky + XxBlueFirexX 7-Player: 12:47.5 (See 5-Player) January 2022 6-Player: 12:47.5 (See 5-Player) January 2022 5-Player: 12.47.5 arabika + ArthurKnight + Donaar + Dutchy January 2022 + Keksmonsta 4-Player: 15:11.8 (See 3-Player) August 2020 3-Player: 15:11.8 LEBOVIN + Treim + Wanky August 2020
Selected Community Maps:
In June 2022, shortly before the ranking reset, records for Community Maps began to be tracked in another post. The records collected until then are now also archived below:
1-Player maps Icedessert: 09:56.8 Metagross31 July 2022 King's Ridge v.0.8: 15:56.2 Donaar September 2022 Nyxia: 05:47.8 Donaar August 2022 Rogans Schatz: 22:02.0 Donaar September 2022 Warrior on the mountains: 13:46.3 Donaar August 2022 City of Tears: 07:34.9 Donaar August 2022 2-Player maps Army of Darkness: 23:01.6 Donaar + Grak September 2022 Simple Land 1: 15:10.6 Emmaerzeh + Metagross31 August 2022 Simple Land 2: 23:03.7 D4rkm4tt3r_Dark + Metagross31 August 2022 Simple Land 3: 21:04.9 D4rkm4tt3r_Dark + Metagross31 August 2022 4-Player maps Twisted Legends - 1.00: 28:59.5 Kapo + Metagross31 + Talgat August 2022
To get started:
Here is the old post: https://forum.skylords.eu/index.php?/topic/965-all-time-fastest-speedrun-rankings/
Here are several speedrun replays on youtube: http://forum.skylords.eu/index.php?/topic/557-speedrun-links/
Introduction how to master maps on expert mode: https://forum.skylords.eu/index.php?/topic/7266-expert-campaign-missions-briefing-among-the-old-gods-achievement/
RPVE-Speedrun Guide: https://forum.skylords.eu/index.php?/topic/752-treims-battlegroundrpve-speedrun-guide/&tab=comments
RPVE-Solo-Speedrun archive: https://forum.skylords.eu/index.php?/topic/6281-treims-motm-solo-speedrun-archive/
Skylords Reborn-Speedrun-Community: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRiLm3stSOWHVIH2lHEOpoQ
Channel of RadicalX which also includes some speedruns: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3rZG7pzo3GYO0wR3Jx9F7w/videos
Back in the old days of battleforge:
SpoilerAttached you can see the speedrun-rankings close to the end of battleforge 2013. If you compare the old times vs. the current times you can see which crazy improvements were possible in the last 2 years. Also we increased the pool of tracked times significantly.
Also there was a 2nd ranking which was representing the total all-time ranking. Each month you got some points for every map depending on the placement you had. This ranking was representing the result for a lot of month playing speedruns and staying most time within the Top10 for a lot of maps. Shown results should be around January 2013.
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Update for Nightmares End Solo : 30.2.8
Update for Convoi Solo : 07.02.5
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New-All-Time-Record Ascension: 12:25.3
DeleriuM + DerNewYork + DieToPlay + Hirooo + LEBOVIN + Luschy + Michielos1 + Pritstift + Sheepmonster + SylarXXI + Treim + Wanky
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16 minutes ago, Rankerz said:
Alright, whatever floats your boat.
If you think 99% players are that bad that cannot even execute the strategy, there is really no reason to fear the competition of your time
I mean most of us happy even to clear an expert map
Maybe you should use your 'super knowledge' to help the small community to improve other than showing us cool numbers as ego boost or pee pee measure contest
But hey, if it makes you happy to keep it as secret of 4 people its on you
I dont know what is wrong with guys like you - i think guys like you are just pissed of that you dont have good mates to play with and develop own speedrun-tactics. All you can is attack us here and state that we are fearing the competition - these are empty words that just try to force a senceless discussion here. And just for your information - there are not just 4 speedruners - our team is just the most active one and we had nice competition in the last months with other teams.
I hope there is another pve community challenge - you can take part and show us how good you are ;-). Replays will be also shared after.
For players that are talk in a normal way with us we also offering support for pve expert maps - for players like you am not even willing to give an answer.
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3 hours ago, Rankerz said:
Maybe I miss something, but what is the point of these ranking without replays ?
I mean its great showing off a time like that ,congratz but the community wont benefit anything from it
Everything is kept as a secret when asking around, nothing to learn from
There is no actual reward attached to the ranks like BFP or money, so i ask why ?
Kind of selfish imo
I am totally bored to answer this again and again - if you would invest a bit of your time you could have checked the pages here before where this was discussed several times - so kind of selfish from your side to attack us here again without checking evten what was written here before.
We have no contract or obligations to show our tactis to the community - there are rankings and we try to run for the best time because this our spirit! There are some teams and also sometimes some new that are willing to develop own and unique tactics.
Guys like you come here and want to have everything for free - you come here with even no speedrun experience and try to force us to show our replays/tactics we have developed with much work.
The result of sharing our replays and powerful tactics are braindead copy runs that in most cases are wrong played because the players that copy are even dont understand what is going on. I saw so much bad things in streams for skylords reborn the last weeks - in the streams they called it speedrun but it was just cheap, silly and braindead copy play - just used to farm gold and exp but no real speedrun spirit behind it. Beeing Overlord in PVE but playing still like a beginner. I will not support this.
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New All-Time-Record Drawen-Riddle: 05.30.4:
New All-Time-Record Convoi Duo: 05.49.6
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15 hours ago, Asgard57 said:
The Russian team will fight for the first places after a while
Ok...You can start with Introduction :-)
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New All-Time Record for Nighmare Shard
LEBOVIN+Pritstift 07.13.0
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13 hours ago, Mynoduesp said:
@LEBOVIN When you make videos for the next Community Challenge I recommend to talk to the top guys first and ask them what the difficulties were and how they solved them. On a random map like Twilight Shard there are choices made which are not apparent in a single playthrough. As example there's a random change a Twilight Bug heads to the shard at around 1:50. Ignoring the bug will result in a loss if the walls are not defended, that's why two nomades are taking the top route in my playthrough. I think sidenotes like these would add something extra to the replay commentary which already includes sidenotes for the map in general.
I like the videos in general though.
I think Lebo mentioned more than enough details of all the 3 runs that casual players and non-speedruners are able to catch during the video. You can write a seperate guide for your run and upload it here. Better be happy that somebody like Lebo invests his time to share and comment replays on a high lvl No need to recommend him sth. here - the map itself has to much random elements. Thx to Lebo!
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I heard after reset the main community of pvp players will comeback - so this should fix your problems to find an opponent
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Hope that we will have again like for last challenge enough participants even if there is no free booster yet :-)
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New All-Time Record for Nighmare Shard
LEBOVIN+Pritstift 07.31.6
@MephistoRoss can you pls update the rankings for blight, nightmare shard, passage to darkness - thank you :-).
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All-time fastest speedrun rankings (October 2013-September 2022)
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Posted · Edited by Pritstift
Nope --> another team was already faster ;-)
Nice competition.