wanky

Thx für the evwnt, n1 to see some "new" names in the top 10

First of all @Volin as I said I do not want anyone to misunderstand what I wrote: To my point of view: I find the 2-3 minutes more time absolutely legitimate for BG10, find the suggestion of @Buddelmuddel also on a certain way comprehensible, simply 100energie more at the start to give. I think most Player know that just at the start of BG10 is first a general "wait" for energy, at least if you do not play with a super well-rehearsed team. 
But despite the changes of e.g. More time + more start energy, the map is not easier to play for less experienced players. Exactly that I also find good and I welcome. It should be hard, and as @Volin said, it does not mean that more time = easier. 
But what needs a revision from my point of view, and I think we've heard this enough by now, is that lvl 7-9 should be adjusted so that the difficulty of BG9 to BG10 is not at this enormous lvl. In the map test for the new Presetzt we have already addressed this once and know about the difficulty to implement this. Suggestion for my part was there, that for the presets to revise experienced Rpve players are still brought to discuss the ausschlieslich in this area with can.Have there players like Treim, Pritstift, Arabika, RadicalX, Volin, Mocaak, etc. thought. But currently does not have the highest priority, certainly also because a "broad mass" would not really welcome this change.

First of all @Volin as I said I do not want anyone to misunderstand what I wrote: To my point of view: I find the 2-3 minutes more time absolutely legitimate for BG10, find the suggestion of @Buddelmuddel also on a certain way comprehensible, simply 100energie more at the start to give. I think most Player know that just at the start of BG10 is first a general "wait" for energy, at least if you do not play with a super well-rehearsed team. 
But despite the changes of e.g. More time + more start energy, the map is not easier to play for less experienced players. Exactly that I also find good and I welcome. It should be hard, and as @Volin said, it does not mean that more time = easier. 
But what needs a revision from my point of view, and I think we've heard this enough by now, is that lvl 7-9 should be adjusted so that the difficulty of BG9 to BG10 is not at this enormous lvl. In the map test for the new Presetzt we have already addressed this once and know about the difficulty to implement this. Suggestion for my part was there, that for the presets to revise experienced Rpve players are still brought to discuss the ausschlieslich in this area with can.Have there players like Treim, Pritstift, Arabika, RadicalX, Volin, Mocaak, etc. thought. But currently does not have the highest priority, certainly also because a "broad mass" would not really welcome this change.

As majora has written, I think that the absolutely most difficult game mode of RPVE should be challenging and only a small number of players can manage it. Where would be the motivation for long-term players if everyone can just play the hardest game mode of RPVE after 2-3 weeks? Sure a lot of this stage is skill based, and there will probably be people who even with the absolute best tuned deck incl replay of someone will have trouble to play a RVPE10. But does not matter if they still have fun playing.
please don't get me wrong. Agree with certain maps that you can only beat the map with the absolute metadecks and top teamwork (addressed to the MOTM) and that casual teams without communication in voice or chat with "fundecks" can not beat the map in time. To this I must say for my part: sorry for not sorry

Video online now. 
 
 
Like i already said before, this run where done just by playing and keep redtsrting until finetuning has endet. 
 
Even if this tactic is not possible anymore 😕
 
/wanky

Video online now. 
 
 
Like i already said before, this run where done just by playing and keep redtsrting until finetuning has endet. 
 
Even if this tactic is not possible anymore 😕
 
/wanky

Video online now. 
 
 
Like i already said before, this run where done just by playing and keep redtsrting until finetuning has endet. 
 
Even if this tactic is not possible anymore 😕
 
/wanky

Hey.
Thanks for the leaderboards report.
The leaderboards on the Hub are being cached once every 36 hours, so maybe the data has not been cached yet.
Also have in mind there are different time range selection possibilities, like so:

At the start of every month, "This month" range usually doesn't have much data for the first week until players play the matches and fill it up.
And could you please private message me with screenshots/examples of the time differences you're mentioning? It will help me better pinpoint the problem, if any.

First of all Great Update. Like to read them. Sometimes its hard to track everything going on. I find these updates here very good to have a rough summary of what is currently going on.
 
I have discovered an "error" in the leaderboard. Namely, in 2 player, as well as in 4 player missions ONLY times are displayed which were made by a 2 respactive 4player team. If you compare this to the ingame ranking there are big differences (eg Empire) Is it possible to fix this? Find it a great alternative that you do not have to go every time ingame to "only briefly" go through the rankings (for example, to take over the alltime in the PVE alltime channel (including team)
greetings Wanky

Hello again Skylords, Skyladies and other Skybeings; The contest is over, and it's time to announce the winners!

But first, I’d like to thank everyone for making the Crappy Community Contest happen - no matter in what way: participation, sponsoring prizes, spreading the word or helping me to organize it. I received so much support and even more nice words - maybe a small apology for the amount of crappy advertisements is also in order 😉
In total, we reached a total number of 130 participants, more than double of our goal. Thanks to the Skylords Team for sponsoring the code CRAP-YCMN-TYCO-NTES
 
Here are the fastest Skylords of the CCC #1:
1st place          01:27.4       arabika
2nd place         01:28.0       Damo
3rd place          01:29.5       Hirooo
4th place          01:30.4       RadicalX
5th place          01:32.5       Treim
6th place          01:34.6       Dolewan
7th place          01:36.4       THE_BIG_WET
8th place          01:39.7       Dutchy
9th place          01:41.5       _empty_
10th place        01:42.1       Hiko
11th place        01:44.5       Bini_Inibitor
12th place        01:45.4       Wanky
13th place        01:46.3       batika
14th place        01:47.5       Zorgok
15th place        01:48.4       Relictook
16th place        01:48.5       SylarXXI
Upper 50% share: The split share of the 3000 bfp is only 46 BFP each - the high number of participants takes its toll here.
Lower 50% draw:
Draw 1      DeityExcalibur           Enlightenment
Draw 2      Endimion                  Amii Monument
Draw 3      Karl_Marx                 Rageflame (B)
I will send you the prizes as soon as possible through ingame mail.
 
Replays and Strategy
Here are the replays of the Top-3 entries - copy them into your Replay folder to watch them:
CCC1_01-27-4_arabikaa.pmv CCC1_01-28-0_Damo.pmv CCC1_01-29_5_Hirooo.pmv
For those who just want to quickly know how the time is achieved without watching, here is a short description: 

With this new knowledge, if you want to try for yourself, please remember that the Map of the Month gets switched pretty soon.
 
In conclusion
Thanks again to all who helped to make this happen. What I can tell so far is that the series will continue, CCC-2 has already been discussed with the Event Managers - but before that my guess is that we will see some other contests/events.
If you have a crappy idea for future CCC's you may share and discuss that with me, maybe you can host your own Crappy Contest! Feel free to contact me. If you want to discuss or host any other kind of contest, contact our Event Managers Hiko and/or Metagross. They are super supportive and will help you to organize your own event!
 

gg wp
I am actually impressed with number of participants and timings. gj everyone!

Dear Skylords,

I just sent out all the prizes - and want to mention again that those came from very generous Skylords sponsoring the Event.  When sending them out, I noticed that I forgot to add an Aggressor (B) into the prize pool, so I put him into the Consolation Prize (16th).

This concludes all business around the first Crappy Community Contest. If you have any feedback around the event, feel free to chat me up or write me a note.
K.

It's valid till the end of January, so no worries 😃

The contest recieved some donations from generous Skylords, so the price pool has been updated.

Edit: I am baffled by the amount of additional donations I recieved, and instead of giving everything to the "Top" I added a random draw of two really good cards for the lower half of entries - that seemed more appropriate for a community contest.

Probely in one of the top 3 🙂

Great idea,
sadly I only got today to get a time in and improve upon it. Well let's see where I end up.

Probely in one of the top 3 🙂

Probely in one of the top 3 🙂

Probely in one of the top 3 🙂

Greetings Skylords!

It's been three weeks since our last community update so it's time to bring you up to speed with everything going on in Skylords Reborn.
This update is kind of a Bandits-Special, with new card reveals, a Deep Dive for the faction and insight in the process of adding a new PvP card. Let's get started!

Anniversary Stream Announcement
Mark your calendars because we have some celebrating to do! On December 18th, Skylords Reborn reaches its 1-year anniversary. It has been a wild ride; from resurrecting the game to a playable state, to actively developing new features and even brand new cards. 
Join us for a special anniversary stream on December 17th with news, card reveals, give-aways and more, celebrating the past, present and future of Skylords Reborn! More details will be shared in the coming weeks. We hope to see you there!

New Card Reveal
Please note: We are still testing the card. While we are generally happy about it and feel comfortable revealing it, its numbers and effects might still change. We hope to release this card before the end of the year and will share more information at a later date. 
Today we are excited to reveal a card that might see play in both PvP and PvE, and solve some of the problems Bandits have in PvP. 
            


Bandit Minefield is a tier 2 Spell for Fire/Shadow. Upgrading the card reduces its cooldown (up to 10 seconds) and powercost (80 to 70). It will be a rare and won't have an affinity. Here is how the card works:
Creates 4 clusters of mines in a line of 20m. If a hostile ground unit gets as close as 10m to a cluster, its mines will detonate in 6 bursting waves. Each wave deals 100 damage to hostile units and 25 damage to buildings in a 15m radius, up to 300 in total. If no enemy approaches a cluster within 10 seconds, its mines will disappear again. Affects ground targets only. Cannot damage wall segments, Power Wells or Monuments. Cannot be placed nearby hostile units or structures, excluding walls. Knocks back small units. Reusable every 35/35/35/25 seconds.
Bandit Minefield requires the selection of source and target location. Mines will be placed in a straight line in the direction you choose. 
 
Design and expected use
Because this is our first new card that will see play in the PvP-meta, we asked our designer RadicalX to share some insights about the design process of the card. We cover why the card was created, what role it has in the meta and how it was changed during testing. Bandits has been one of the weaker factions in PvP, so we are very excited to see how this new tool will help them out. 
Bandit_Minefield_Design_Choices.pdf
 
Affinity and Rarity
A quick word about this cards rarity and lack of affinity. Affinities were added to every expansion of BattleForge, mostly as a way to increase the number of cards in each expansion. While there are some cards where the different affinities result in interesting choices, there are also a lot of cards that struggle under this design restriction. The Skylord Reborn team decided that going forward, we will add affinities where they feel right, but leave them out when we can't add a meaningful difference between them, or adding them would undermine what the card is supposed to do. 
As for the rarity, we actually wrote a document about rarity, and according to those guidelines, Bandit Minefield will be a rare. It is worth noting that Bandit Minefield will be added to the free PvP-bandit deck. We expect this card to be crucial in the PvP scene, and find it important that everyone who wants to play PvP can do so without grinding for cards or upgrades first. 

Artwork
The artwork has been designed by our talented artist Tweeto, and we thought it would be cool to share some sketches to show you the progress. 

As always, a lot of time and changes went into this artwork. A big thanks to Tweeto for constantly accepting feedback and improving the artwork. We are really happy with the final result, and hope you are too! 
 
Vote for Cardnames
Just like with Coat of Protection and Wasteland Wing, we need your suggestions for the final cardname. During testing we came up with the cardname ''Bandit Minefield" and ''Treacherous Path" as the effect name. However, part of our promise to our Patrons is to let them help with naming new cards based on suggestions from the community. For this, we will need your help!
Please reply in the comments below what you feel is the perfect cardname for this card and how you would name the ability.  
Example:
Name: Bandit Minefield
Ability: Treacherous Path
Please only suggest one name. We will collect all the suggestions and let our Avatar-of-Frost-tier (and higher) Patrons vote for the final name, starting next week. 
 

Bandit Deep Dive
Back in July we shared our Deep Dive into Frost; an exploration into what makes the faction tick and how we planned to tackle the issues Pure Frost struggled with. We have since then shifted our focus away from the frosty Lyrish Reaches and moved on to the scorching Southern Wastes; attached you will find the Bandits Deep Dive!
In this document we will be exploring the Bandits-faction in detail, including upcoming changes and even a tease of another new card! It is our goal with documents such as these to give our players a glimpse into how we think about factions and where we are planning to take the game.
Bandits_Deep_Dive.pdf
Upcoming Tournaments & Events
NEW: Official PvE Contest#4 Winter is coming - Until 17.12.2021
For this challenge, we want to see you succeed in playing the map Guns of Lyr, while accomplishing several winter and Christmas themed objectives. This event has a point system and boosters for the top performers. Check out the rules and how to apply here and have fun!

FINISHED: Official PvE Contest#3 Skylords Raid
Our 3th PvE contest has concluded, thanks to everyone who participated! Originally the idea was to have a stream, but because we are already streaming for our anniversary and most of the runs used the same tactics, the winners will instead be announced through a youtube video in the near-future. We also saw a lot less participants in this style of contest, so we will try to stay away from multiple-map contests in the future.
 
• Host your own event / tournament
Want to host a tournament or event? Please reach out to our Event Organisers Hiko or Metagross to have your event prizes sponsored by us. If you have a cool idea for a PvE event, or want to host a PvP tournament, please don't hesitate to reach out to us, we will gladly assist you. 
 
New Team Members / Open Positions
We are very happy to announce a new addition to our team: RookieN has joined the team as a Map Designer / Map Developer / Map Artist! You can expect great things from him, and we hope to be able to share them soon. 
We also added another Event Manager to the team; Metagross will work together with our other Event Manager Hiko to provide you with a steady stream of contests and tournaments. His community contest on King's Ridge was a success, so we are happy to officially welcome him to the team. 
At the same time we are sad to see Kerkk leave the team as a Web Developer. He unfortunately does not have enough time to help us out anymore. We would like to thank him for his time and all he did for Skylords Reborn! 
Last Community Update we posted our cry for help for Balance Developers, and we are very grateful for the response. We hope to add new Balance Developers to the team soon, who will help us implement new cards and balance changes. We did experience some delays because of the lack of staff for quite a while now, but we hope this will improve with new members being added to the team. This is always an area that we need help with, so if you are still interested, please let us know. 
There are still some other areas we would like additional help to expand and grow Skylords Reborn. If you want to help, we would love to have you on our team. Below we have highlighted some roles, but you can find more information, desired traits and all our open positions here. If you are unsure if you qualify, please reach out and have a talk! 
 
NEW: Open Position - Video Editor
As a video editor you are responsible for creating exciting video content for Skylords Reborn. This can range from short card reveal videos to exciting trailers and cutting up Twitch-stream content for highlight videos on our Youtube channel. If you have any experience with audio post production, you can also help us out with the process of adding new voice-lines and sound effects into the game. More Information.

Open Position - Artist
While we absolutely love Tweeto's output, one artist can only do so much. As an artist you are responsible to create the visuals required for new content. This is a broad position and there are many areas where you could help in, depending on your skills and interests. Think of loading screen artwork for new maps, card artwork for new cards, visual UI elements for new features that involve adding UI to the game, banners for events/tournaments/community challenges/large game updates etc. More Information.

Open Position - Marketeer / Outreach Coordinator
As a Marketeer / Outreach Coordinator you are responsible to spread the word and create awareness about Skylords Reborn and to attract veteran and new players alike. This includes actively researching and reaching out to potentially interested streamers, youtubers, Discord channels, game magazines, among others. You will be responsible for the communication to and from interested parties and for any promotion deals (for example involving scratch codes). Please note that Skylords Reborn cannot do any paid promotions. More Information.

In Conclusion
And that's it for this Community Update, thanks for reading! 
As is tradition, this community update comes with a scratch code. 
The code will reward you with a mini-booster: COMM-UNIT-YNEW-S15B
The code is valid till December 25th.
We will update you again on December 18th, during our 1-year anniversary! The next community update will probably stick to the 3 week schedule, meaning it will be posted on the 25th. 
As always, we are open to feedback so please let us know! 
Archive
Community Update #12
Community Update #13
Community Update #14

I would like to inform you, that the extra bounty for completing the "Christmas Peace" objective has been claimed! You can no longer get the reward for being the first to pull it of, but you can still get the points for your run 🙂

Hello Skylords, Skyladies and other Skybeings.
Welcome to the fourth official PvE event!
We hope you will have a lot of fun with this event!




What kind of event will it be?

PvE - Advanced - Guns of Lyr with a point system
For this challenge, we want to see you succeed in playing the map Guns of Lyr, while accomplishing several winter and christmas themed objectives.
The more objectives you accomplish, the more points you get. The team with the highest number of points wins the contest!
But there is more! You also get points for speed! The faster you finish the map, the more extra points you get.
Thus, you will need to find the right balance between objectives and time and choose your strategy accordingly.

So gather a team, polish your strategy and go for the Highscore!


When will it start?

We will be accepting entries starting today.
The event will run for a bit more than 2 weeks, to be specific: 17.12.2021 23:59 CET.
You can send your replays through DM to me on Discord (Metagross31#1103) or through a PM to me on the forum.
We will announce the winners on stream on the 2nd of January, 6pm CET.


How can I participate?

Everyone with an ingame account can participate in the event - there is no need to sign up separately.
You just have to send in your best replay, including the player names, the time of the replay and what objectives you accomplished. [Note: Your entry has to be a victory]
For example: If your team reached a time of 17:23.6, name your replay the following way:

"Hiko_Majora_Zyna_Metagross31_17:23.6.pmv"

Additionally, send me a list of all objectives. For example:
Low points:        A, C, D; Total: 900
Mid points:             K, L; Total: 1200
High points:             all; Total: 4000
Penalty points:           S; Total: -1200
Total points:                             4900

You can send in your replays until the 17.12.2021. 

Please note:
You are allowed to compete with multiple teams, but only your highest score will determine the rewards you win, meaning you can only get rewards for one submission. You are allowed to compete with a team of less than 4 people or even alone.
You can find your replays here: Documents=>Battleforge=>replays


What are the objectives?

This event will have a point system: points will be rewarded by completing the following objectives. The goal is to get as many points as possible!
You don't have to complete them all, but of course you should aim for as many points as you can in a single run.
It is important however, that your final score from objectives is greater than zero. Runs with a negative score do not qualify.
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Low points:

A:   HoHoHo!: 200p
Have one player play out Santa Claus*

B:   You are not alone: 200p
Have one player build a Stronghold next to Rogan's Castle*

C :  We are many!: 300p
Have all players from your team build a Stronghold next to Rogan's Castle*

D :  Santa's little helper: 400p
Have Rogan Kayle (Player's card) within a 25m radius of Santa all the time*

E:   The Ghost of Christmas Past: 400p
As a team, play at least five different frost cards from the twilight edition*

F:   The Ghost of Christmas Present: 400p
Play at least one frost card, that has been buffed by the Skylords Reborn team (See below for a list of cards)*

G:   The Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come: 400p
Play at least one frost card, that has proposed buffs for the future (See below for a list of cards)*
H:   Presents for the Kobolds: 400p
Use one of Santa's gifts next to one of the Kobold Engineers*
I:    Presents for the King: 400p
Use one of Santa's gifts next to Rogan's castle
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Maximum low points:    3100
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Medium points:

J:   Boxing day: 400p
Open all gold chests

K:   Presents for your neighbors: 600p
Use one of Santa's gifts next to one of the big twilight manifestations, before they get destroyed*

L: Sitting at the fireplace: 600p
Have a unit sit in front of the top fire trap for 3 minutes without dying or walking away*

M:   Coming down the chimney: 600p
Completely destroy all four enemy walls

N:   First the dinner, then the presents: 600p
Destroy all minor twilight infestation camps before destroying the final manifestations*

O:   A time for modesty: 800p
As a team, do not control more than 10 orbs at the same time*

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Maximum medium points:    3600
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High points:

P:   The real deal:  1000p
Play the map on Expert difficulty instead of advanced

Q:   Frosty times:  250p per player, maximum of 1000p
Play a pure frost deck*

R :   Christmas Peace:  1500p  (2000p if combined with objective P)
Do not kill any enemy units until the final wave spawns*
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Maximum high points:    4000
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Maximum Total points:    10700
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Penalty points:

S:   That's not a Christmas tree!:  -1200p
Using Amii Monument

T:   Taking your siblings' presents: -1500p
Using Decomposer

U:  Got the wrong present: -1000p
Destroying your starting orb*

V:  Broken Chimney: -1000p
One of the Kobold Engineers dies*

W:   Blocking the way for Santa: -1500p
Construct buildings past the flames near the map border in the top left or bottom right corner*

X:   Christmas is over: -1500p
Santa dies

Y:   Wrong season, wrong event: -1000p
Play out easter Egg
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Total penalty points:    -8700
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* Check the FAQ for clarifications.
Time Score:
There will also be points awarded for time. The faster you finish the map, the more points you will get with a maximum of 1500p.
There are no preset timewindows that determine your time score, instead your time is compared to all entries.
This means that every second counts when it comes to your time score!
However, you can not lose any points by having a slow time. So it is up to you to decide whether you want to go for as many objectives as possible or if you want to leave some out in the hope of getting a better time.
You do not have to calculate the time score yourself, we will calculate the time score for every entry.
For a detailed explanation on how the time score is calculated, see the FAQ below.
 
FAQ     
In order to reduce confusion about the objectives, we have precompiled a list of questions you might have and answered them beforehand.
If you have any questions about one of the objectives, please check this FAQ first.
If your question is not yet answered in the FAQ, feel free to ask the question in this thread. That way it can be clarified and added to the FAQ.
List of previously buffed frost cards:

List of frost cards with proposed buffs:

Questions about specific objectives:
Calculation of the time score:






Sounds fun! What's the prize pool?

The following prize pool will be adjusted according to the amount of participants.
If more than 20 teams submit a run, you can still expect the top 50% of runs to win something.

The prices are per person. If you compete with multiple teams, only your highest place will be rewarded :
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1st place                          7 Frost and 5 general Booster packs
2nd place                         6 Frost and 3 general Booster packs
3rd place                          5 Frost and 2 general Booster packs
4th-8th place                   2 Frost and 2 general Booster packs
9th-10th place                 1 Frost and 1 general Booster pack

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One more extra bounty... - CLAIMED
There is one more extra bounty to claim!
The first team, which sends me a replay in which they complete the objective R: Christmas Peace on any difficulty will get an additional reward of 3 general boosters.
Note, that the replay, you submit for the extra bounty does not have to be counted for the actual run, you can still submit a different replay with a different time and score as your final submission.
The extra bounty has already been claimed!
You can no longer get the reward for being the first to pull it of, but you can still get the points for your run
                                                   
In conclusion

This event focuses on your speed, teamwork and flexibility on these different PvE maps.

To summarize the event in simple steps:
Look for a team. You can either do this below this topic, on Discord or Ingame. Come up with a strategy for your run. Try to complete the objectives while being as fast as possible. Make sure your score is greater than zero. Calculate your score and determine your final time.
Satisfied? Send the replay to me! (Metagross31#1103 on Discord) or PM your best replay to me (in the forum).
When will we stream?

We will announce the winners on stream.
Date: 2nd of January, 6pm CET




Future events
If you are interested in helping with these kind of events for the community, or want to host one yourself, don't be afraid and simply reach out!
Send me or @Minashigo Hiko a PM on the forum, or direct message via Discord (Metagross31#1103, Minashigo Hiko#1126).
We are happy to assist you with upcoming events and with sponsoring your prize pool!
We hope you have a lot of fun with this event. We are looking forward to seeing all your replays!
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask.

Best regards,
Skylords Reborn Team

Awesome event! I enjoyed reading the objective names a lot as well, very creative!

As Wanky already said, you can only play GoL on adv and exp anyways
 
Looking forward to your run 🙂
I wasn't entirely sure, if they can actually die, but if they can't, you are safe anyways 🙂

First of all. I like this kind of event. Sound like Fun.
small comment, however, regarding the rules:
I am pretty sure that this is not possible in the normal way. (maybe a self-damaged function of a card could cause this with detours). Just for your information.
 
GoL only have Adv and Expert. There is no Std mode sadly 😞
 
Since I'm cleared for the events again, I'm sure I'll join in and have fun developing the tactics and playing this map. Is finally my favorite map (together with Ravens End)
 
Anyway, thanks for this creative idea for this event. 
 
/wanky
 
ps: Since you can play with several teams, I'm happy to make myself available if a team is still looking for 1 capable player. In the tactics development, however, I will rather hold back, provided that our team takes part in it, thank you here for understanding.